Look no further than me. I don't know how my component parts work. John, do you have a recommendation for a book on geometric algebra?
Frank ----------------------------------- Frank Wimberly My memoir: https://www.amazon.com/author/frankwimberly My scientific publications: https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Frank_Wimberly2 Phone (505) 670-9918 On Sat, Oct 27, 2018, 6:20 AM John Kennison <jkenni...@clarku.edu> wrote: > I like the idea of a non-sequential machine, or perhaps, a being, whose > operation is NOT determined by knowing how its component parts function. I > don’t see how to go about constructing such a thing, unless I assume that > there are laws of physics which remain undiscovered. So for now, I will > settle on trying to describe a ``machine’’ which is not a sequential > machine. I think that Rosen is right in saying that having a parallel > machine (in which various operations happen simultaneously) will not do the > trick because given any parallel machine one can define a sequential > machine that functions in the same way. One might make a machine in which > the outputs only happen with a certain specified probability, but I don’t > think that is different enough. So I rephrase the problem as describing an > entity that receives inputs and produces outputs that is cannot be > duplicated (or reasonably modeled) by a probabilistic sequential machine > (one in which the outputs happen with a specified probability). I thought > of starting with a sequential machine, which has rules for how to react to > inputs when in a given state. But now let’s suppose that the rules may > change. The entity is capable of learning new rules. This seems more > biological –the entity can reprogram itself. But I find that naive ways of > reprograming can probably be duplicated by a sequential machine. For > example, if the machine reprograms when dissatisfied with previous > performance, then there is a new state, of being dissatisfied, and the > reprograming activity can, it seems, be re-expressed as more sophisticated > rules for producing an output. > > > --John > ------------------------------ > *From:* Friam <friam-boun...@redfish.com> on behalf of Tom Johnson < > t...@jtjohnson.com> > *Sent:* Wednesday, October 24, 2018 4:23:01 PM > *To:* Friam@redfish. com > *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] Open Letter, draft #2 > > Yes, but not with multiple signatories. Sorry. > > ============================================ > Tom Johnson > Institute for Analytic Journalism -- Santa Fe, NM USA > 505.577.6482(c) 505.473.9646(h) > *NM Foundation for Open Government* <http://nmfog.org> > *Check out It's The People's Data > <https://www.facebook.com/pages/Its-The-Peoples-Data/1599854626919671>* > http://www.jtjohnson.com t...@jtjohnson.com > ============================================ > > > On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 11:45 AM Nick Thompson <nickthomp...@earthlink.net> > wrote: > > Thanks, Tom, > > > > Still trying to figure out logistics. I have written the NM-ican to find > out how to submit a letter from many signers, but got no response. Do you > have any experience with this? > > > > Nick > > > > Nicholas S. Thompson > > Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology > > Clark University > > http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ > > > > *From:* Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] *On Behalf Of *Tom > Johnson > *Sent:* Wednesday, October 24, 2018 11:14 AM > *To:* Friam@redfish. com <friam@redfish.com> > *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] Open Letter, draft #2 > > > > I will sign on, Nick. > > Tom Johnson, Professor Emeritus, San Francisco State University > > > > ============================================ > Tom Johnson > Institute for Analytic Journalism -- Santa Fe, NM USA > 505.577.6482(c) 505.473.9646(h) > *NM Foundation for Open Government* <http://nmfog.org> > *Check out It's The People's Data > <https://www.facebook.com/pages/Its-The-Peoples-Data/1599854626919671>* > > http://www.jtjohnson.com t...@jtjohnson.com > ============================================ > > > > > > On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 6:09 PM Nick Thompson <nickthomp...@earthlink.net> > wrote: > > Hi, all, > > > > Here is a new draft of the open letter, pared down to meet the New > Mexican’s requirements. I have a few signatories, would love some more. I > will bring the letter with me to our service on Friday. Even if you don’t > plan to sign, please feel free to point out typos and other infelicities. > > > > Nick > > > > *To the New Mexican* > > *We are industrial researchers and retired college professors, living in > Santa Fe. We urge all Santa Feans to vote, but particularly young voters > and their parents. Institutions of learning and their students are under > stress. Every day, we meet young people as dedicated to learning as our > best research students in the 70’s and 80’s, yet are working as cashiers, > ride hail drivers, waiters and waitresses. Under present conditions, these > talented young people cannot afford to go to university and, without that > training, will never take up the leadership positions their talent should > make possible. The nation will need these students as our generation > retires from institutes, government laboratories, colleges, and > universities. Please take time to vote and to tell your representatives to > support education at every level. The future safety and prosperity of our > nation depends on it. * > > > > Nicholas S. Thompson > > Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology > > Clark University > > http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ > > > > ============================================================ > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College > to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove > > ============================================================ > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College > to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove > > ============================================================ > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College > to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove >
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