I tried to copy this mail that had the file attached: We used the Hearsay-II extensively as a model for how to do parallel, distributed applications in the Robotics Institute at Carnegie Mellon. It makes use of levels and communication among them, up, down and within a level. Applications included factory automation, job shop scheduling, and others. As a speech-understanding system it was replaced by Harpy which was faster.
Some will remember several other times that I have promoted this. I'm just trying to help. ----------------------------------- Frank Wimberly Phone (505) 670-9918 On Thu, May 2, 2019, 7:30 PM Frank Wimberly <[email protected]> wrote: > About levels. I tried to post this but ran into the size problem. > > > https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ynIauGuXsUgXvi8w0BuiY7VjfYrgGqgW/view?usp=drivesdk > > > ----------------------------------- > Frank Wimberly > > My memoir: > https://www.amazon.com/author/frankwimberly > > My scientific publications: > https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Frank_Wimberly2 > > Phone (505) 670-9918 > > On Thu, May 2, 2019, 5:36 PM Frank Wimberly <[email protected]> wrote: > >> We used the Hearsay-II extensively as a model for how to do parallel, >> distributed applications in the Robotics Institute at Carnegie Mellon. It >> makes use of levels and communication among them, up, down and within a >> level. Applications included factory automation, job shop scheduling, and >> others. As a speech-understanding system it was replaced by Harpy which >> was faster. >> >> Some will remember several other times that I have promoted this. I'm >> just trying to help. >> >> Frank >> >> ----------------------------------- >> Frank Wimberly >> >> My memoir: >> https://www.amazon.com/author/frankwimberly >> >> My scientific publications: >> https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Frank_Wimberly2 >> >> Phone (505) 670-9918 >> >> On Thu, May 2, 2019, 5:24 PM Roger Critchlow <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> On the bounds of stupidity, there's at least a sucker born every minute, >>> a large proportion of whom apparently benefit not at all from any kind of >>> education. >>> >>> A theoretical sequential machine, perhaps, that might melt a hole >>> through the earth while simulating a cell. >>> >>> The hierarchy in this case looks like linguistic compression to me, a >>> way of summarizing results, the system is not depending on the levels of >>> organization to work, we find levels convenient for explanations of how the >>> system works. >>> >>> -- rec -- >>> >>> On Thu, May 2, 2019 at 1:36 PM uǝlƃ ☣ <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Thanks VERY much for posting some digested material from the paper. >>>> What you say below seems to hearken back to what JonZ (or maybe JohnK?) >>>> said awhile back, ... paraphrasing: that he would be hard-pressed to find >>>> something that organisms can do that can't be duplicated by a sequential >>>> machine. >>>> >>>> That type of statement and yours below do not *imply* that an effect >>>> was NOT generated by a (semi)hierarchical structure. It merely implies >>>> something like the parallelism theorem, that anything a (semi)hierarchial >>>> system can do, a "flat" one can do (though perhaps with extra space or time >>>> costs). Am I reading your statement right? >>>> >>>> On 5/2/19 12:02 PM, Roger Critchlow wrote: >>>> > But they don't actually extract the levels of organization from the >>>> model. They take the levels of organization as known facts and construct >>>> observations of the model that make predictions consistent with the >>>> levels. So if there are levels of organization as yet unidentified, they >>>> are at least as obscure in the model as they are in reality. And to claim >>>> that the levels of organization emerge from the model sort of ignores how >>>> much work went into constructing the observations. >>>> > >>>> > On the other hand, one might be surprised that all these levels are >>>> implicit in the amino acid sequences, but life knew that already, that's >>>> why it only remembers the sequences. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> ☣ uǝlƃ >>>> >>>> ============================================================ >>>> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv >>>> Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College >>>> to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com >>>> archives back to 2003: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ >>>> FRIAM-COMIC <http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/FRIAM-COMIC> >>>> http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove >>>> >>> ============================================================ >>> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv >>> Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College >>> to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com >>> archives back to 2003: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ >>> FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove >>> >>
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