G

Ok, but in your metaphor, the image is not hidden BECAUSE it is inside.  As a 
color blind person, there is no BOUNDARY between me and the numeral.  Quite the 
opposite.  It is right there in front of me if only I had the key, knowledge, 
information, etc, to see it.  

N

Nicholas Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology
Clark University
[email protected]
https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/
 


-----Original Message-----
From: Friam <[email protected]> On Behalf Of u?l? ?
Sent: Monday, May 18, 2020 3:45 PM
To: FriAM <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] hidden

No teasing. Seriously. When you said "A color blind person lacks the code to 
see the numeral hidden within the diagram", explicitly using the phrase "within 
the diagram", that is exactly what I mean when I say "inside the diagram". 
"Within", "inside", and "on" are synonymous.

Please note that we're still talking in the CONTEXT of my re-statement of what 
you and EricC seem to believe. If/when that context changes, I'll try to let 
you know because the semantics of my language will change, no matter how hard I 
try to keep it fixed.

On 5/18/20 2:35 PM, [email protected] wrote:
> So you are teasing me, a little bit, right?  I understand "internal" only if 
> it contains no surplus beyond "hidden". I suppose that if you mean by inside 
> only "a hidden subset of" then I have to go along with it.  But now I have to 
> think about whether your meaning has anything to do with what Frank and 
> others mean when they talk about privileged access to a causal subjective 
> mind. 

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