HANG ON, Roger

 

Variance decreases with N.

 

Nicholas Thompson

Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology

Clark University

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From: Friam <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Roger Critchlow
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2020 7:16 PM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] high turnout and tight races?

 

I would think that the more people who vote the less likely a tie or close 
outcome becomes, simply by the larger number of ways you can miss with more 
votes in play.

 

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On Wed, Oct 28, 2020 at 8:17 PM Frank Wimberly <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:

N = 3 is slightly better.  But I don't have time or incentive to do a detailed 
statistical analysis.  

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On Wed, Oct 28, 2020, 6:14 PM Frank Wimberly <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:

In 1964 Johnson beat Goldwater by 60 to 40.  The Kennedy/Nixon and Gore/Bush 
elections were extremely close.  In all three elections the turnout was between 
35 and 40 percent.

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140 Calle Ojo Feliz, 
Santa Fe, NM 87505

505 670-9918
Santa Fe, NM

 

On Wed, Oct 28, 2020, 6:00 PM Frank Wimberly <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:

I'm saying that in this election there will be high turnout and not a very 
close election.

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140 Calle Ojo Feliz, 
Santa Fe, NM 87505

505 670-9918
Santa Fe, NM

 

On Wed, Oct 28, 2020, 5:59 PM uǝlƃ ↙↙↙ <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:

So, what about the question I asked? You have no opinion on whether high 
turnout negatively or positively correlates with narrow victories?


On 10/28/20 4:52 PM, Frank Wimberly wrote:
> I predict that Biden will win by a large margin and that the outcome will be 
> clear on election night notwithstanding any outstanding uncounted votes.  
> Young people are voting in unprecedented numbers and are reportedly voting 
> against Trump.  Similarly the elderly, who favored Trump over Clinton by 10+ 
> percentage points in 2016 are favoring Biden over Trump by a similar margin, 
> according to polls.
> 
> The good thing about predictions is that they can be evaluated perfectly 
> after the events have happened.
> 
> Frank
> 
> ---
> Frank C. Wimberly
> 140 Calle Ojo Feliz,
> Santa Fe, NM 87505
> 
> 505 670-9918
> Santa Fe, NM
> 
> On Wed, Oct 28, 2020, 5:20 PM uǝlƃ ↙↙↙ <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>  <mailto:[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]> >> wrote:
> 
>     From:
> 
>     https://www.electoral-vote.com/evp2020/Pres/Maps/Oct28.html#item-7 
> <https://www.electoral-vote.com/evp2020/Pres/Maps/Oct28.html#item-7>
>     "6. High turnout makes razor-thin victories, like the ones Trump notched 
> in Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania in 2016, much less likely."
> 
>     Is that true? I've always heard that tight races lead to higher turnout, 
> which would imply that high turnout would correlate WITH thin victories, not 
> against them.

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