Let’s see, if I go to www.fueleconomy.gov<http://www.fueleconomy.gov> it says a 
Tesla model 3 is 24 kWh/100 mi.   That’s about 66 miles round trip from Santa 
Fe to Los Alamos.
So I get 20,592 kWh of energy use for 5 days of driving a week for 5 years.   
Then the battery would likely get converted into battery storage for solar.
Also the energy that goes into manufacturing batteries will steadily improve as 
technology improves.   kWh is not a great metric either for impact on the 
planet.

From: Friam <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Merle Lefkoff
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 9:51 AM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] A Theory of (Almost) Everything - IEEE Spectrum

Almost, but not quite, Jochen.  He doesn't know about embodied energy.  A motor 
car has an embodied energy contents of 20 800k kWh, while an electric car's 
embodied energy amounts to 34 700 kWh.  Perhaps if he knew this he wouldn't be 
so optimistic.  We are racing toward our doom.

On Thu, Apr 15, 2021 at 10:06 AM Jochen Fromm 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Interesting IEEE podcast: an interview with Václav Smil, who wrote a book about 
"Grand Transitions", similar to "The Major Transitions in Evolution" from John 
Maynard Smith and Eörs Szathmáry
https://spectrum.ieee.org/podcast/geek-life/history/a-theory-of-almost-everything

-J.

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