lol that is true. Now what happens when you are free of energy? and is that conserved in a coffee pot. Oh speaking of hopeful developments! this is promising: https://www.energylivenews.com/2020/09/02/us-startup-unveils-battery-made-from-nuclear-waste-that-could-last-up-to-28000-years/ Anyone know how soon or easily those can be made to power phones, or even a coffee maker? Is my understand right part of the problem is getting either enough stuff, or the right mix of stuff to make energy over just a few moles of electricity?
On Thu, Apr 15, 2021 at 1:53 PM Stephen Guerin <[email protected]> wrote: > We don't have an energy problem. Energy is conserved. We have a "free > energy" problem. > > On Thu, Apr 15, 2021, 11:17 AM <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Merle, and all, >> >> >> >> A naïve question: Do we have an energy supply problem or do we have an >> energy distribution problem? For starters, let there be a solar collector >> on the roof of every house in santa fe, roughly the area of the roof >> (roofly the area of the rough?) . Assuming energy were entirely miscible, >> what proportion of the total energy needs (except food, of course) of Santa >> Feans would that generate. I assume hundreds of percents, right? >> >> >> >> N >> >> >> >> Nick Thompson >> >> [email protected] >> >> https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/ >> >> >> >> *From:* Friam <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Merle Lefkoff >> *Sent:* Thursday, April 15, 2021 10:51 AM >> *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group < >> [email protected]> >> *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] A Theory of (Almost) Everything - IEEE Spectrum >> >> >> >> Almost, but not quite, Jochen. He doesn't know about embodied energy. A >> motor car has an embodied energy contents of 20 800k kWh, while an electric >> car's embodied energy amounts to 34 700 kWh. Perhaps if he knew this he >> wouldn't be so optimistic. We are racing toward our doom. >> >> >> >> On Thu, Apr 15, 2021 at 10:06 AM Jochen Fromm <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Interesting IEEE podcast: an interview with Václav Smil, who wrote a >> book about "Grand Transitions", similar to "The Major Transitions in >> Evolution" from John Maynard Smith and Eörs Szathmáry >> >> >> https://spectrum.ieee.org/podcast/geek-life/history/a-theory-of-almost-everything >> >> >> >> -J. >> >> >> >> - .... . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. .... . .-. . >> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv >> Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam >> un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com >> FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ >> archives: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Merle Lefkoff, Ph.D. >> Center for Emergent Diplomacy >> emergentdiplomacy.org >> >> Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA >> >> >> mobile: (303) 859-5609 >> skype: merle.lelfkoff2 >> >> twitter: @merle110 >> >> >> - .... . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. .... . .-. . >> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv >> Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam >> un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com >> FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ >> archives: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ >> > - .... . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. .... . .-. . > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam > un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ > archives: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ >
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