On 22 March 2013 13:41, Waldek Hebisch <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> > The Axiom Portal site which used to be on the same machine
>> > as wiki is now on Bill Page's machine with password limited
>> > access.
>>
>> What was the reason to separate wiki from portal?
>>
>> The portal runs on Plone and the wiki was zwiki inside Plone.
>> What is it now?

ZWiki is a native Zope "product" just as Plone is a Zope product. But
by design the whole this is "object-oriented" and so  Plone has the
ability to treat ZWiki pages as Plone objects.

>>
>> I believe that updating the portal alone to a newer version of Plone
>> should do the trick of getting html-pages. I think the most important
>> thing there is the papers about axiom that we collected.
>

I also liked the online Axiom bibliography.

> As I wrote in previous message currently the portal software
> does not work.  Bill probably could give more details but IIRC
> portal got broken in an attempt to upgrade Plone.

Who attempted to upgrade Plone?

> Downgrading Plone should fix this, but then one would be forced
> to run wiki on an obsolete system.
>

I am not aware of any problem with Plone.  As far as I know what
Waldek is running is based on the same virtual machine that both Ralf
and I are running.  This was the version of AxiomWiki that was last
running at the University of Washington.

By "obsolete system" are you referring to the version of Ubuntu?  The
wiki VM was running Ubuntu 9-something and although this version of
now really old I never much worried about this since is was "only a
VM".  Having this old VM accessible only behind an Apache proxy
running on an up to date current version of Linux seemed like more
than adequate protection from the hostile Internet to me.

There were a few spam issues - especially on the Plone side and in
spite of requiring Plone users to register.  But it never got to be
that irritating to me.

> Concerning collection of axiom papers: it is available now.
> See:
>
> http://axiom-wiki.newsynthesis.org/public/refs/articles.html
>
> This page is rather crude but it should contain links to all
> papers which were on the portal.
>
> I must admit that I do not understand rationale for having
> separate wiki and portal.  My impression is that portal
> content was quite static.  If that is true then it make sense
> to convert what was in the portal into a set of static pages.
>

My idea of the portal was motivated by the requirement for users to
register. Really it was an attempt to try to get them to assume
"ownership" for some part ot the content by offering them more control
over who to see their work.  Plone has a more structured "publishing"
type of workflow in contrast to the free wheeling style of the wiki.

Bill Page.

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