-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 08/06/2012 04:13 PM, Ben Finney wrote: > Clint Adams <[email protected]> writes: > >> On Mon, Aug 06, 2012 at 01:40:31PM +1000, Ben Finney wrote: >>> [The Debian project claiming that ‘contrib’ and ‘non-free’ are >>> part of Debian] would be the lie. They are not part of Debian. >> Do you understand how a sane and honest person might disagree >> with you given the preponderance of evidence? > > it's the only definition that matters for saying what is actually > part of Debian.
This is where we disagree, Ben. That definition is most certainly _not_ the only thing that matters. Placed next to the facts, its really very trivial and dishonest. Its probably the least important thing to bring to the table. Personally, I couldn't care less what Debian says, only what they do. Again that includes the project, the distribution, the system, and whatever other obfuscating definitions you could come up with. Debian has spent more time and effort building up a fully functionally free system then any other distribution with which I have worked. Which isn't to slight projects like gNewSense, Parabola, et al., because I see them as extensions of the work that started with Debian. Even if this collaboration fails to achieve what I hope it could (and doubt that it will) I *still* want to see Debian thrive. With or without contrib and nonfree. But I'll say its a nonfree distribution. Because it is. Right now my primary focus is on some urgent threats to everyone's privacy and freedom. AFAIK, Debian parts are going to be moving the projects that are meant combat those threats, so it is inevitable that I will be looking at and working with Debian. I _want_ Debian to succeed, but I also want honesty, of which I haven't seen enough yet. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJQH0zrAAoJEM5s7GXJ0FEI0QQIAKpBznly+hSyM3TOGETHdbeT b0oo5npPQrG1o8g+/nMSAmjlwJQV+eqO3ePr3t5T6489DZz5U9w+7dapyO/Gzttr OdfbfxkKSquo05AyFfS0aoRfZ1wRWIvJjzJFtzzbxtQQd9yO3MxkUlHDXKKNW02i 3Iv1ljTS9jcTMHpqkjJGU2iCgMCInk5n/dy8+eaFF3pQCQxq4GsDtpW7Y5kbGsrb TVy27ZJZolozcyPpiLLn1/VyvpsTIlIPQUmTOUFlt7nChEyYk4ZVo2FHjhv67f6S ZQgdLk26pzOgZGOLm/5nXSnJ894su3xft7mRRrmQl+MNBtCTKv85mCigp7eW64g= =sjB7 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ Fsf-collab-discuss mailing list [email protected] http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/fsf-collab-discuss
