-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 08/06/2012 10:27 PM, Paul van der Vlis wrote: > I think we should not show something what's non-free or contrib or > bad on debian.org. But maybe nonfree.org could show everything > (inclusive main).
That's very interesting. But then to users, nonfree.org becomes the new Debian, and Debian becomes the new gNewSense. Its completely unobjectionable to do from a freedom standpoint, but is that the best possible result? Should not the result be better then the way things are as they stand? Maybe instead of looking at main vs contrib/nonfree as a case of separating Siamese twins, we should look at it as a case of isolating and embolizing a tumorous growth. Maybe after talking about it for awhile, we move contrib/nonfree off site. Maybe in bits at first, while aintainers still work together, but eventually the user can't see debian.org and nonfree.org on the same page. Then in two or three years we start dropping redundant packages from nonfree. You know, the ones that have free replacements. We could have spent those two or three years knocking some rough corners, and where we're lucky, getting some of the people who control the rights to some packages to relicense so it can go back to debian.org. Then in five, six, seven years or however long it takes, after we've cut back a lot of the junk, we can take a hard look and what is left over. We can post something up on the front page of nonfree.org, saying, "Packages here are deprecated. We are committed to the important things our users need by developing replacements or convincing the developers to make them free," and start doing it. We do that until there isn't enough interest left in nonfree.org to warrant keeping the site running. I think we can do that. Maybe not in that general timeframe, but whatever ends up being a reasonable enough time. Debian has been described as the "it will be finished when its finished" distribution. Let's do that here. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJQH65EAAoJEM5s7GXJ0FEI1xUIAIeHZa1nG9Cm0ZJYxFkxnYnT U9w5xV85vZ3OkHzgQmDwaogX2qPoED/TDjmXfQy5ChgIzfOb/eVTfZCQhOQ/dGTw /gTVS4fcCIWJJaAiAk4ZKag2DBgtjn4Npe2c4qozhD7Llp32slJSvoS1agf+DA0Y woZxImxnVZJZGWlVmL4b5OE33o4sG51jVnIbsVWAHZCiFZAQJtqfH20EhYKKUrUn fA5OzQrHYlz/ZFx1tK72MdFC4UnEBuQTaC/oKHpTEmUaOeZXdVmRfUWA8RKqbY5Q 4qiqMq6qNutpFoapMgKa/LTkUHZuCi2FG7Abv39jAo9Q+UGDfoOtqrylQT+7+0c= =75+j -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ Fsf-collab-discuss mailing list [email protected] http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/fsf-collab-discuss
