Op 06-08-12 13:45, Bryan Baldwin schreef: > On 08/06/2012 10:27 PM, Paul van der Vlis wrote: >> I think we should not show something what's non-free or contrib or >> bad on debian.org. But maybe nonfree.org could show everything >> (inclusive main). > > That's very interesting. But then to users, nonfree.org becomes the > new Debian, and Debian becomes the new gNewSense. Its completely > unobjectionable to do from a freedom standpoint, but is that the best > possible result? Should not the result be better then the way things > are as they stand? > > Maybe instead of looking at main vs contrib/nonfree as a case of > separating Siamese twins, we should look at it as a case of isolating > and embolizing a tumorous growth.
You are right in that. But I think you are isolating too when you move the WTF-people to a site called "nonfree.org". And free software is free, so you can tell about it even on a nonfree-site. But I must say that I was only thinking about the package search engine, not about something else. No problem when this was not a good idea ;-) > Maybe after talking about it for > awhile, we move contrib/nonfree off site. Maybe in bits at first, > while aintainers still work together, but eventually the user can't > see debian.org and nonfree.org on the same page. Then in two or three > years we start dropping redundant packages from nonfree. You know, the > ones that have free replacements. This is already happening. > We could have spent those two or > three years knocking some rough corners, and where we're lucky, > getting some of the people who control the rights to some packages to > relicense so it can go back to debian.org. > > Then in five, six, seven years or however long it takes, after we've > cut back a lot of the junk, we can take a hard look and what is left > over. We can post something up on the front page of nonfree.org, > saying, "Packages here are deprecated. We are committed to the > important things our users need by developing replacements or > convincing the developers to make them free," and start doing it. We > do that until there isn't enough interest left in nonfree.org to > warrant keeping the site running. I think we can do that. Maybe not in > that general timeframe, but whatever ends up being a reasonable enough > time. Debian has been described as the "it will be finished when its > finished" distribution. Let's do that here. Sounds good! With regards, Paul van der Vlis. -- Paul van der Vlis Linux systeembeheer, Groningen http://www.vandervlis.nl _______________________________________________ Fsf-collab-discuss mailing list [email protected] http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/fsf-collab-discuss
