Please moderator, close this thread. 2009/1/22 andrew.wallace <[email protected]>
> I would love to know j-f sentier's views on President Barack Obama, > maybe he is against him as well. > > On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 12:01 AM, Avraham Schneider > <[email protected]> wrote: > > the fact that you express your opinions on a political manner in a comsec > > mailing list and they happen to be copied from terrorist propaganda (i.e. > > baseless, ignores reality, full of lies and distortions) > > > > And when you are presented with facts that contradict what you said, you > > shift the argument to baseless character attacks (with your pathetic > > English). > > > > That basically proves you are here to do propaganda - either voluntarily > > (because you are EVIL) - or because you are paid to do it by evil > > people/governments (like Iran, who is known to support terrorists). > > > > But it does not explain why you expect n3td3v to stop his computer > security > > related discussions (that are not technical, but computer security > related), > > when you don't stop your propaganda that is _completely unrelated to > > computer security_? > > > > > > > > On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 1:38 AM, j-f sentier <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> > >> yeah totally, i work for fucking IRAN punk, if i'm agains free israeli > >> bull-shit, and n3tcr4p , then i'm ureleet or Iran propaganda or > something > >> EVIL. > >> > >> this prove your closed-mind side which in this case turns in a fucking > >> brown noze. > >> > >> 2009/1/22 andrew.wallace <[email protected]> > >>> > >>> Remember in the Palestine war thread he accused you for working for > >>> Mossad and being paid to post on full-disclosure. Though he > >>> propagandas against n3td3v constantly to turn the world against me or > >>> something. Maybe its j-f sentier who is paid to be here and propaganda > >>> against things. He may not be a terrorist but he uses terrorist like > >>> tactics to turn hatred on. j-f sentier's defence will be, 'but > >>> 'Ureleet' done it so it must be ok to join in'. If 'Ureleet' told you > >>> to jump off a bridge would you do it? > >>> > >>> Andrew > >>> Intelligencer & > >>> Founder of n3td3v > >>> > >>> On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 11:05 PM, Avraham Schneider > >>> <[email protected]> wrote: > >>> > The fact that he bears the same name as me, does not mean it's me. > >>> > > >>> > I don't spam propaganda - I invalidate yours. > >>> > > >>> > On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 12:16 AM, j-f sentier <[email protected]> > >>> > wrote: > >>> >> > >>> >> which propaganda ? > >>> >> > >>> >> you're spamming propaganda everytime you post. > >>> >> > >>> >> But i understand why now : > >>> >> > >>> >> http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1049327.html > >>> >> > >>> >> "The footage also shows an Israeli soldier, believed by the military > >>> >> police to be Corporal Avraham Schneider, picking up stones and > >>> >> participating > >>> >> in the disturbance, instead of preventing it. " > >>> >> > >>> >> Everything is clearer than ever. > >>> >> > >>> >> 2009/1/22 Avraham Schneider <[email protected]> > >>> >>> > >>> >>> > >>> >>> On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 9:35 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> Hi, > >>> >>>> > I called for John Cartwright to setup a non-technical cyber > >>> >>>> > security > >>> >>>> > political full-disclosure mailing list some time ago, nothing > was > >>> >>>> > setup. > >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> because he didnt want to - and theres no demand? > >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> > What are the solutions for splitting up full-disclosure into > >>> >>>> > technical > >>> >>>> > and non-technical conversation unless two seperate mailing lists > >>> >>>> > are > >>> >>>> > created? > >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> go off and create a yahoo or google mailing list for such drivel > >>> >>> > >>> >>> I second that. If he wants to have a list for different types of > >>> >>> discussions, the best choice is to just open one yourself. > >>> >>> > >>> >>> As for getting 'traffic' there, I doubt people would stop posting > >>> >>> here > >>> >>> and start posting there (as nothing would stop them from posting it > >>> >>> here). > >>> >>> > >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> and let FD go back to what it was a few years back - readable and > >>> >>>> useful! > >>> >>> > >>> >>> FD is un-moderated and as such people can post whatever they want > >>> >>> (security related or not). > >>> >>> > >>> >>> Usually, people would avoid annoying others with non-security > related > >>> >>> topics - but in the case of js-sentiner and co., one can expect > some > >>> >>> spam. > >>> >>> > >>> >>> Sometimes, when they decide to attack others (either with > propaganda, > >>> >>> or > >>> >>> just because they are bored) , those attacked have two options - > >>> >>> either a) > >>> >>> ignore it or b) respond with non-security related posts and defend > >>> >>> themselves (or oppose their propaganda). > >>> >>> > >>> >>> As far as readibility is concerned, that can easily be accomplished > >>> >>> by > >>> >>> either white or black list filters - i.e. if you only care about a > >>> >>> certain > >>> >>> vendor's patch notifications, put a filter to get them and > blacklist > >>> >>> the > >>> >>> rest; if you care not to get any andrew wallase/avraham > schneider/js > >>> >>> sentier/whatever/whoever conversations - set a filter for that - > and > >>> >>> you are > >>> >>> back with a readable FD. > >>> >>> > >>> >>> Just keep in mind that your posts requesting FD to go back to being > >>> >>> readable, are not computer security related either (at least > without > >>> >>> wickedly twisting the meaning of the phrase 'computer security'). > >>> >>> > >>> >>> So for the same reason you find it OK to post your request (and it > >>> >>> is), > >>> >>> andrew finds it OK to posts his (and it is). > >>> >>> > >>> >>> Not trying to defend n3td3v or anything - but there's some > hypocricy > >>> >>> here. > >>> >>> > >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> ala > >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>> >>>> Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > >>> >>>> Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > >>> >>>> Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > >>> >>> > >>> >>> > >>> >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> >>> Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > >>> >>> Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > >>> >>> Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > >>> >> > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > _______________________________________________ > >>> > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > >>> > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > >>> > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > >>> > > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > >>> Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > >>> Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > >> Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > >> Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > -- If you have questions please let me know. 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