hey bitch, you're the first to spread propaganda here, then STFU. You've got no creditbility here.
2009/1/22 Avraham Schneider <[email protected]> > the fact that you express your opinions on a political manner in a comsec > mailing list and they happen to be copied from terrorist propaganda (i.e. > baseless, ignores reality, full of lies and distortions) > > And when you are presented with facts that contradict what you said, you > shift the argument to baseless character attacks (with your pathetic > English). > > That basically proves you are here to do propaganda - either voluntarily > (because you are EVIL) - or because you are paid to do it by evil > people/governments (like Iran, who is known to support terrorists). > > But it does not explain why you expect n3td3v to stop his computer security > related discussions (that are not technical, but computer security related), > when you don't stop your propaganda that is _completely unrelated to > computer security_? > > > > On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 1:38 AM, j-f sentier <[email protected]> wrote: > >> yeah totally, i work for fucking IRAN punk, if i'm agains free israeli >> bull-shit, and n3tcr4p , then i'm ureleet or Iran propaganda or something >> EVIL. >> >> this prove your closed-mind side which in this case turns in a fucking >> brown noze. >> >> 2009/1/22 andrew.wallace <[email protected]> >> >>> Remember in the Palestine war thread he accused you for working for >>> Mossad and being paid to post on full-disclosure. Though he >>> propagandas against n3td3v constantly to turn the world against me or >>> something. Maybe its j-f sentier who is paid to be here and propaganda >>> against things. He may not be a terrorist but he uses terrorist like >>> tactics to turn hatred on. j-f sentier's defence will be, 'but >>> 'Ureleet' done it so it must be ok to join in'. If 'Ureleet' told you >>> to jump off a bridge would you do it? >>> >>> Andrew >>> Intelligencer & >>> Founder of n3td3v >>> >>> On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 11:05 PM, Avraham Schneider >>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> > The fact that he bears the same name as me, does not mean it's me. >>> > >>> > I don't spam propaganda - I invalidate yours. >>> > >>> > On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 12:16 AM, j-f sentier <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >> >>> >> which propaganda ? >>> >> >>> >> you're spamming propaganda everytime you post. >>> >> >>> >> But i understand why now : >>> >> >>> >> http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1049327.html >>> >> >>> >> "The footage also shows an Israeli soldier, believed by the military >>> >> police to be Corporal Avraham Schneider, picking up stones and >>> participating >>> >> in the disturbance, instead of preventing it. " >>> >> >>> >> Everything is clearer than ever. >>> >> >>> >> 2009/1/22 Avraham Schneider <[email protected]> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 9:35 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Hi, >>> >>>> > I called for John Cartwright to setup a non-technical cyber >>> security >>> >>>> > political full-disclosure mailing list some time ago, nothing was >>> >>>> > setup. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> because he didnt want to - and theres no demand? >>> >>>> >>> >>>> > What are the solutions for splitting up full-disclosure into >>> technical >>> >>>> > and non-technical conversation unless two seperate mailing lists >>> are >>> >>>> > created? >>> >>>> >>> >>>> go off and create a yahoo or google mailing list for such drivel >>> >>> >>> >>> I second that. If he wants to have a list for different types of >>> >>> discussions, the best choice is to just open one yourself. >>> >>> >>> >>> As for getting 'traffic' there, I doubt people would stop posting >>> here >>> >>> and start posting there (as nothing would stop them from posting it >>> here). >>> >>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> and let FD go back to what it was a few years back - readable and >>> >>>> useful! >>> >>> >>> >>> FD is un-moderated and as such people can post whatever they want >>> >>> (security related or not). >>> >>> >>> >>> Usually, people would avoid annoying others with non-security related >>> >>> topics - but in the case of js-sentiner and co., one can expect some >>> spam. >>> >>> >>> >>> Sometimes, when they decide to attack others (either with propaganda, >>> or >>> >>> just because they are bored) , those attacked have two options - >>> either a) >>> >>> ignore it or b) respond with non-security related posts and defend >>> >>> themselves (or oppose their propaganda). >>> >>> >>> >>> As far as readibility is concerned, that can easily be accomplished >>> by >>> >>> either white or black list filters - i.e. if you only care about a >>> certain >>> >>> vendor's patch notifications, put a filter to get them and blacklist >>> the >>> >>> rest; if you care not to get any andrew wallase/avraham schneider/js >>> >>> sentier/whatever/whoever conversations - set a filter for that - and >>> you are >>> >>> back with a readable FD. >>> >>> >>> >>> Just keep in mind that your posts requesting FD to go back to being >>> >>> readable, are not computer security related either (at least without >>> >>> wickedly twisting the meaning of the phrase 'computer security'). >>> >>> >>> >>> So for the same reason you find it OK to post your request (and it >>> is), >>> >>> andrew finds it OK to posts his (and it is). >>> >>> >>> >>> Not trying to defend n3td3v or anything - but there's some hypocricy >>> >>> here. >>> >>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> ala >>> >>>> >>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>>> Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. >>> >>>> Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html >>> >>>> Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. >>> >>> Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html >>> >>> Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ >>> >> >>> > >>> > >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. >>> > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html >>> > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ >>> > >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. >>> Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html >>> Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. >> Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html >> Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ >> > >
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