You make less and less sense with every post you make. You are delusional. Ask for help (not online).
On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 2:34 AM, j-f sentier <[email protected]> wrote: > And you ? > > Please tell me god, i know i'm an inferior human being regarding you, but > please tell me > > 2009/1/22 Avraham Schneider <[email protected]> > >> >> >> >> On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 2:03 AM, j-f sentier <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> hey bitch, you're the first to spread propaganda here, then STFU. >>> >> this mailing list is archived online - it's not difficult to prove you >> wrong, but you ignore reality so I'm not going to bother (it's too easy for >> others to do if they really cared) >> >> >> You've got no creditbility here. >>> >> Why, because you say so? >> >> What did you do for computer security lately? >> >> >>> >>> >>> 2009/1/22 Avraham Schneider <[email protected]> >>> >>>> the fact that you express your opinions on a political manner in a >>>> comsec mailing list and they happen to be copied from terrorist propaganda >>>> (i.e. baseless, ignores reality, full of lies and distortions) >>>> >>>> And when you are presented with facts that contradict what you said, you >>>> shift the argument to baseless character attacks (with your pathetic >>>> English). >>>> >>>> That basically proves you are here to do propaganda - either voluntarily >>>> (because you are EVIL) - or because you are paid to do it by evil >>>> people/governments (like Iran, who is known to support terrorists). >>>> >>>> But it does not explain why you expect n3td3v to stop his computer >>>> security related discussions (that are not technical, but computer security >>>> related), when you don't stop your propaganda that is _completely unrelated >>>> to computer security_? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 1:38 AM, j-f sentier <[email protected]>wrote: >>>> >>>>> yeah totally, i work for fucking IRAN punk, if i'm agains free israeli >>>>> bull-shit, and n3tcr4p , then i'm ureleet or Iran propaganda or something >>>>> EVIL. >>>>> >>>>> this prove your closed-mind side which in this case turns in a fucking >>>>> brown noze. >>>>> >>>>> 2009/1/22 andrew.wallace <[email protected]> >>>>> >>>>>> Remember in the Palestine war thread he accused you for working for >>>>>> Mossad and being paid to post on full-disclosure. Though he >>>>>> propagandas against n3td3v constantly to turn the world against me or >>>>>> something. Maybe its j-f sentier who is paid to be here and propaganda >>>>>> against things. He may not be a terrorist but he uses terrorist like >>>>>> tactics to turn hatred on. j-f sentier's defence will be, 'but >>>>>> 'Ureleet' done it so it must be ok to join in'. If 'Ureleet' told you >>>>>> to jump off a bridge would you do it? >>>>>> >>>>>> Andrew >>>>>> Intelligencer & >>>>>> Founder of n3td3v >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 11:05 PM, Avraham Schneider >>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> > The fact that he bears the same name as me, does not mean it's me. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > I don't spam propaganda - I invalidate yours. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 12:16 AM, j-f sentier <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> which propaganda ? >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> you're spamming propaganda everytime you post. >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> But i understand why now : >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1049327.html >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> "The footage also shows an Israeli soldier, believed by the >>>>>> military >>>>>> >> police to be Corporal Avraham Schneider, picking up stones and >>>>>> participating >>>>>> >> in the disturbance, instead of preventing it. " >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> Everything is clearer than ever. >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> 2009/1/22 Avraham Schneider <[email protected]> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 9:35 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>> Hi, >>>>>> >>>> > I called for John Cartwright to setup a non-technical cyber >>>>>> security >>>>>> >>>> > political full-disclosure mailing list some time ago, nothing >>>>>> was >>>>>> >>>> > setup. >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>> because he didnt want to - and theres no demand? >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>> > What are the solutions for splitting up full-disclosure into >>>>>> technical >>>>>> >>>> > and non-technical conversation unless two seperate mailing >>>>>> lists are >>>>>> >>>> > created? >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>> go off and create a yahoo or google mailing list for such drivel >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> I second that. If he wants to have a list for different types of >>>>>> >>> discussions, the best choice is to just open one yourself. >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> As for getting 'traffic' there, I doubt people would stop posting >>>>>> here >>>>>> >>> and start posting there (as nothing would stop them from posting >>>>>> it here). >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>> and let FD go back to what it was a few years back - readable and >>>>>> >>>> useful! >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> FD is un-moderated and as such people can post whatever they want >>>>>> >>> (security related or not). >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> Usually, people would avoid annoying others with non-security >>>>>> related >>>>>> >>> topics - but in the case of js-sentiner and co., one can expect >>>>>> some spam. >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> Sometimes, when they decide to attack others (either with >>>>>> propaganda, or >>>>>> >>> just because they are bored) , those attacked have two options - >>>>>> either a) >>>>>> >>> ignore it or b) respond with non-security related posts and defend >>>>>> >>> themselves (or oppose their propaganda). >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> As far as readibility is concerned, that can easily be >>>>>> accomplished by >>>>>> >>> either white or black list filters - i.e. if you only care about a >>>>>> certain >>>>>> >>> vendor's patch notifications, put a filter to get them and >>>>>> blacklist the >>>>>> >>> rest; if you care not to get any andrew wallase/avraham >>>>>> schneider/js >>>>>> >>> sentier/whatever/whoever conversations - set a filter for that - >>>>>> and you are >>>>>> >>> back with a readable FD. >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> Just keep in mind that your posts requesting FD to go back to >>>>>> being >>>>>> >>> readable, are not computer security related either (at least >>>>>> without >>>>>> >>> wickedly twisting the meaning of the phrase 'computer security'). >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> So for the same reason you find it OK to post your request (and it >>>>>> is), >>>>>> >>> andrew finds it OK to posts his (and it is). >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> Not trying to defend n3td3v or anything - but there's some >>>>>> hypocricy >>>>>> >>> here. >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>> ala >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> >>>> Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. >>>>>> >>>> Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html >>>>>> >>>> Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> >>> Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. >>>>>> >>> Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html >>>>>> >>> Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ >>>>>> >> >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>>>> > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. >>>>>> > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html >>>>>> > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ >>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. >>>>>> Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html >>>>>> Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. >>>>> Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html >>>>> Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> >
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