And you ? Please tell me god, i know i'm an inferior human being regarding you, but please tell me
2009/1/22 Avraham Schneider <[email protected]> > > > > On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 2:03 AM, j-f sentier <[email protected]> wrote: > >> hey bitch, you're the first to spread propaganda here, then STFU. >> > this mailing list is archived online - it's not difficult to prove you > wrong, but you ignore reality so I'm not going to bother (it's too easy for > others to do if they really cared) > > > You've got no creditbility here. >> > Why, because you say so? > > What did you do for computer security lately? > > >> >> >> 2009/1/22 Avraham Schneider <[email protected]> >> >>> the fact that you express your opinions on a political manner in a comsec >>> mailing list and they happen to be copied from terrorist propaganda (i.e. >>> baseless, ignores reality, full of lies and distortions) >>> >>> And when you are presented with facts that contradict what you said, you >>> shift the argument to baseless character attacks (with your pathetic >>> English). >>> >>> That basically proves you are here to do propaganda - either voluntarily >>> (because you are EVIL) - or because you are paid to do it by evil >>> people/governments (like Iran, who is known to support terrorists). >>> >>> But it does not explain why you expect n3td3v to stop his computer >>> security related discussions (that are not technical, but computer security >>> related), when you don't stop your propaganda that is _completely unrelated >>> to computer security_? >>> >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 1:38 AM, j-f sentier <[email protected]>wrote: >>> >>>> yeah totally, i work for fucking IRAN punk, if i'm agains free israeli >>>> bull-shit, and n3tcr4p , then i'm ureleet or Iran propaganda or something >>>> EVIL. >>>> >>>> this prove your closed-mind side which in this case turns in a fucking >>>> brown noze. >>>> >>>> 2009/1/22 andrew.wallace <[email protected]> >>>> >>>>> Remember in the Palestine war thread he accused you for working for >>>>> Mossad and being paid to post on full-disclosure. Though he >>>>> propagandas against n3td3v constantly to turn the world against me or >>>>> something. Maybe its j-f sentier who is paid to be here and propaganda >>>>> against things. He may not be a terrorist but he uses terrorist like >>>>> tactics to turn hatred on. j-f sentier's defence will be, 'but >>>>> 'Ureleet' done it so it must be ok to join in'. If 'Ureleet' told you >>>>> to jump off a bridge would you do it? >>>>> >>>>> Andrew >>>>> Intelligencer & >>>>> Founder of n3td3v >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 11:05 PM, Avraham Schneider >>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> > The fact that he bears the same name as me, does not mean it's me. >>>>> > >>>>> > I don't spam propaganda - I invalidate yours. >>>>> > >>>>> > On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 12:16 AM, j-f sentier <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >> >>>>> >> which propaganda ? >>>>> >> >>>>> >> you're spamming propaganda everytime you post. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> But i understand why now : >>>>> >> >>>>> >> http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1049327.html >>>>> >> >>>>> >> "The footage also shows an Israeli soldier, believed by the military >>>>> >> police to be Corporal Avraham Schneider, picking up stones and >>>>> participating >>>>> >> in the disturbance, instead of preventing it. " >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Everything is clearer than ever. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> 2009/1/22 Avraham Schneider <[email protected]> >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 9:35 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>> > I called for John Cartwright to setup a non-technical cyber >>>>> security >>>>> >>>> > political full-disclosure mailing list some time ago, nothing >>>>> was >>>>> >>>> > setup. >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> because he didnt want to - and theres no demand? >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> > What are the solutions for splitting up full-disclosure into >>>>> technical >>>>> >>>> > and non-technical conversation unless two seperate mailing lists >>>>> are >>>>> >>>> > created? >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> go off and create a yahoo or google mailing list for such drivel >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> I second that. If he wants to have a list for different types of >>>>> >>> discussions, the best choice is to just open one yourself. >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> As for getting 'traffic' there, I doubt people would stop posting >>>>> here >>>>> >>> and start posting there (as nothing would stop them from posting it >>>>> here). >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> and let FD go back to what it was a few years back - readable and >>>>> >>>> useful! >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> FD is un-moderated and as such people can post whatever they want >>>>> >>> (security related or not). >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> Usually, people would avoid annoying others with non-security >>>>> related >>>>> >>> topics - but in the case of js-sentiner and co., one can expect >>>>> some spam. >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> Sometimes, when they decide to attack others (either with >>>>> propaganda, or >>>>> >>> just because they are bored) , those attacked have two options - >>>>> either a) >>>>> >>> ignore it or b) respond with non-security related posts and defend >>>>> >>> themselves (or oppose their propaganda). >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> As far as readibility is concerned, that can easily be accomplished >>>>> by >>>>> >>> either white or black list filters - i.e. if you only care about a >>>>> certain >>>>> >>> vendor's patch notifications, put a filter to get them and >>>>> blacklist the >>>>> >>> rest; if you care not to get any andrew wallase/avraham >>>>> schneider/js >>>>> >>> sentier/whatever/whoever conversations - set a filter for that - >>>>> and you are >>>>> >>> back with a readable FD. >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> Just keep in mind that your posts requesting FD to go back to being >>>>> >>> readable, are not computer security related either (at least >>>>> without >>>>> >>> wickedly twisting the meaning of the phrase 'computer security'). >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> So for the same reason you find it OK to post your request (and it >>>>> is), >>>>> >>> andrew finds it OK to posts his (and it is). >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> Not trying to defend n3td3v or anything - but there's some >>>>> hypocricy >>>>> >>> here. >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> ala >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> >>>> Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. >>>>> >>>> Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html >>>>> >>>> Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> >>> Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. >>>>> >>> Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html >>>>> >>> Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ >>>>> >> >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>>> > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. >>>>> > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html >>>>> > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. >>>>> Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html >>>>> Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. >>>> Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html >>>> Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ >>>> >>> >>> >> >
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