--- On Sat, 7/25/09, security curmudgeon <[email protected]> wrote:

> I'd be happy to bet against you on this.

> Incident occurred. Lesson: Single factor SSO authentication
> can bite you in the ass (access to mail, calendar, docs, apps, more).

I did at least qualify my comment.  I allow it is possible that due to typical 
organizational FUBAR they can avoid learning lessons, too.
 
> I bet we don't see them change this to require (or even
> allow) unique  passwords for each part. I bet we don't see them change to
> two-factor  authentication, even if it remains SSO.

I wouldn't bet either way, but two-factor remains something they should be 
motivated to provide for paying customers so they (or a competitor) could 
implement it once and thereby increase security for N sites, as opposed to the 
same N sites all managing to implement two-factor spontaneously.
 
> If they spend a portion of those billions of dollars on
> security, sure.  But like most companies, security doesn't seem to be any
> more 'built in from the ground up' than the next company.

They don't need to spend billions, just a tiny fraction. Having the potential 
to afford the budget makes it more likely than all those N sites all managing 
to come up with the individual budgets (which, of course, would add up to way 
more than Google would spend doing it once).  For Google it is a Cost Of Goods 
Sold line item, for LA etc it is an additional expense.  Unlike LA, Google 
could make money by spending those few bucks.

More than an argument in favor of Google (or any other single company) the 
point in support is in support of off-siting instead of hosting locally.  The 
best argument against is the "monoculture" argument which - while it stands 
pretty well regardless - can be mitigated by diligence and best practices.

-chris 


      
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