For what it's worth some good may come out of this in the form of a positive precedent for other courts to draw upon.
On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 7:50 PM, Dave Paris <[email protected]> wrote: > ...or the boundlessness of sheer stupidity. > > On 2/18/2010 11:29 PM, Tomas L. Byrnes wrote: > > Never underestimate the arrogance of power. > > > > > > > > > > > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > > On Behalf Of Joel Esler > > Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 2:56 PM > > To: Dan Kaminsky > > Cc: funsec; [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [funsec] big brother at school > > > > > > > > And this is why I am not a lawyer I guess, cause I'm with Dan. I can't > > think of any defense the lawyer would have. > > > > On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 5:35 PM, Dan Kaminsky<[email protected]> wrote: > > > > "In loco parentis" tends to be pretty powerful, but you know what's > > even stronger? Castle doctrine. It wasn't just the kid that got > > violated, it wasn't even particularly the kid that got hit. The > > school dropped a camera into the parent's home. > > > > "It's OK, I was just trying to secretly take pictures of your kid in > > his bedroom" isn't exactly the greatest defense the world has ever > > seen. > > > > > > On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 3:05 PM, Benjamin Brown<[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > >> Just something to chew on: A number of court decisions (press me > > harder and > >> I can search for the titles) rule in favor of the administration of > > public > >> schools in cases that would have otherwise been seen a pure violation > > of a > >> student's rights. These cases often invoke an argument of In loco > > parentis > >> for the administration. Though in every case I have read the rulings > >> concerned actions taken on school grounds or within close proximity. > > This > >> case involves school property (the laptop), but occurs at the students > > home. > >> I am curious how this shakes out and what the court ruling (and > > inevitable > >> appeal ruling) will say. > >> > >> My 2 dinars =) > >> -Ben > >> > >> On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 2:35 PM, Rob, grandpa of Ryan, Trevor, Devon& > >> Hannah<[email protected]> wrote: > >>> > >>> Date sent: Thu, 18 Feb 2010 10:28:13 -0600 > >>> From: RandallM<[email protected]> > >>> > >>>> http://www.boingboing.net/2010/02/17/school-used-student.html > >>> > >>> and > >>> > >>> http://www.courthousenews.com/2010/02/18/24789.htm > >>> > >>> "A federal class action claims a suburban school district has been > > spying > >>> on > >>> students and families through the "indiscriminant use of and ability > > to > >>> remotely > >>> activate the webcams incorporated into each laptop issued to > > students," > >>> without > >>> the knowledge or consent of students or parents. The named plaintiffs > > say > >>> they > >>> learned that Big Brother was in their home when an assistant > > principal > >>> told their > >>> son that the school district knew he `was engaged in improper > > behavior in > >>> his > >>> home, and cited as evidence a photograph from the webcam embedded in > > minor > >>> plaintiff's personal laptop issued by the school district.'" > >>> > >>> Always possible that the allegations are wrong or overstated, but, on > > the > >>> face of it, > >>> sounds like this school district could be in very serious trouble ... > >>> > >>> (Cue comments about protecting children, and being willing to give up > >>> personal > >>> freedoms for a worthy cause, etc ... ) > >>> > >>> ====================== (quote inserted randomly by Pegasus Mailer) > >>> [email protected] [email protected] > > [email protected] > >>> What you ... call a poor signal-to-noise ratio is the 'glue' that > >>> holds a community together, that lets us recognize one another as > >>> people rather than roles. - Anton Aylward > >>> victoria.tc.ca/techrev/rms.htm > > blog.isc2.org/isc2_blog/slade/index.html > >>> http://blogs.securiteam.com/index.php/archives/author/p1/ > >>> http://twitter.com/NoticeBored http://twitter.com/rslade > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. > >>> https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec > >>> Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list. > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. > >> https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec > >> Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list. > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. > > https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec > > Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. > > https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec > > Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list. > _______________________________________________ > Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. > https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec > Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list. >
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