I often seem to reply to the wrong email in a given topic....anyway, here is the email 
I really wanted to respond to (from  Donald Pavlik)

Douglas Smith

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Hi All,

After thinking about this some, it seems I put my foot in mouth here....

After all, the whole point of FuseBox, FuseDocs and FuseStubs is to better manage your 
project on the code level (even if it can't help you manage your billing)!

And there are a lot of people on this list who are doing some serious thinking about 
how to better manage projects...which I appreciate.

Project management elements FuseBox, Docs and Stubs can help you with

        Drafting and Outlining (using FuseDocs and FuseStubs) 
                and therefor, estimating cost 
        Teamwork and code standardization 
        Speed of Development 
        Isolation of bugs 
        Reuse of common code 

Project management elements FuseBox can not help you with
        
        Client relations 
        Bug tracking and testing 
        Billing

At 10:57 PM 10/3/00 -0400, Donald R. Pavlik wrote:
>I am sorry for my post, I am new to posting and askign questions in these
>forums, so I am not sure who or where to ask my questions.
>
>But for you to say if this is appropriate, I have to say get real.  I have
>only been on this forum for a week and I have gotten questions from drinking
>beer to actual coding, so where do you draw the line.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Michael Slatoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2000 10:53 PM
>To: Fusebox
>Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: RE: Project Management
>
>
>You are absolutely right,
>
>This thread is moving to the cf-community list.
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Douglas M. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2000 5:47 PM
>To: Fusebox
>Subject: RE: Project Management
>
>
>
>While I appreciate, and deal with these issues all the time, is the FuseBox
>list really the appropriate place to discuss these issues?
>
>
>At 08:32 PM 10/3/00 -0400, Donald R. Pavlik wrote:
>>I have a simular question on that, I am new to providing the ability of
>>building websites to others for a cost, and I just don't know what the
>value
>>would be for a site I build.  I develope in Coldfusion, and I use fusebox
>>when I can.  So what could be a good base to charge for a website, or rate
>>to charge?
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: John Quarto-vonTivadar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2000 8:06 PM
>>To: Fusebox
>>Subject: Re: Project Management
>>
>>
>>more importantly, how do you BILL such projects turned around in 5 days? I
>>asked Steve this, but since his project done in that turn-around time was
>>quasi-internal, the billing issue was not nearly as pressing. I was hoping
>>that Hal could shed some insight on how this can be handled in a
>contractual
>>situation: what sort of phrasing or terms get put into the contract that
>can
>>effectively result in payment being timely and ensured.
>>
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Michael Slatoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>To: "Fusebox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2000 6:48 PM
>>Subject: OT: Project Management
>>
>>
>>> I've got a huge stack of projects on my desk at home and at the office.
>My
>>> brain is starting to hurt just shuffling them around. The thought of
>>> building an entire application in 5 days is nice, but is it practical in
>>the
>>> "I want it now" times we're in. How do you manage projects?
>>>
>>> Michael Slatoff
>>>
>>>
>>>
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TeraTech Inc - Tools for Programmers(tm)
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