If they asked before the book then I'd think we have even a little room to
be lenient. As the book is out, we've got no choice. And actually, it
solidifies our position to the name as a methodology waaay before they can.
They own it for consulting, we own it for methodology.
As for them asking you to change the look of the site, that sounds VERY
fishy. Why would they want a site that has nothing to do with them other
than the name to look like theirs. On one hand they want to avoid dilution
of trademark and on the other they're asking for it. Very fishy.
> They didn't make any demands, but asked if we would be willing to
> relinquish the name.
>
> I told them it would affect a lot of people if I gave up the name, so I
> wasn't ready to do that.
>
>
> They also asked if we change the look of our site to theirs.
>
> I wasn't open to changing the look of the site because I didn't want to
> confuse people into thinking that fusebox.org is a for-profit
> organization associated with fusebox.com.
>
> Steve Nelson
>
> "Janty.com Development Staff" wrote:
> >
> > TMs for fusebox:
> >
> > 1. Computer software for collaborative multimedia authoring and
distribution
> > August 4, 2000
> > Improv Technologies, Inc. CORPORATION DELAWARE 23 East 31st Street 14th
> > Floor Penthouse New York NEW YORK 10016
> >
> > 2. IC 025. US 022 039. G & S: Clothing for adults and children, namely
> > T-shirts, tank tops, golf shirts, denim shirts, sweat shirts, sweat
pants,
> > sweaters, shorts, bike shorts, sports bras, socks and hats. FIRST USE:
> > 19950616. FIRST USE IN COMMERCE: 19950616
> > IC 042. US 100 101. G & S: Computer services, namely designing and
> > maintaining web sites and web pages; developing and customizing computer
> > software and hardware; designing and implementing information
architecture,
> > tracking and analysis tools, intranet and content management tools,
custom
> > applications, e-commerce and auction functions; interactive advertising,
> > database, network and legacy information integration; providing
broadband
> > delivery and hosting functions; designing, developing, providing and
> > syndicating content, including animation, 3D design, realtime streaming
> > media, audio and video programming webcasting and multimedia Consulting
> > services, namely assisting others in internet related business and
creative
> > strategy and financial analysis, brand identification and development,
> > technology and bandwidth planning and management, mixed media
advertising
> > and marketing campaigns, sales and marketing materials, art direction
and
> > design, and competitive website analysis. FIRST USE: 19950616. FIRST USE
IN
> > COMMERCE: 19950616
> > June 5, 2000
> > Fusebox, Inc. CORPORATION NEW YORK 36 West 20th Street New York NEW YORK
> > 10011
> >
> > 3. G & S: computer software for composing, animating, or controlling
> > virtual environments to be used for real time simulation. FIRST USE:
> > 19961201. FIRST USE IN COMMERCE: 19961201
> > October 12, 1999
> > EVANS & SUTHERLAND COMPUTER CORPORATION CORPORATION UTAH 600 Komas Drive
> > Salt Lake City UTAH 84158
> >
> > 4. G & S: computer services, namely, creating and maintaining web sites
for
> > others. FIRST USE: 19950616. FIRST USE IN COMMERCE: 19950616
> > June 9, 1998
> > FUSEBOX, INC. CORPORATION NEW YORK 36 West 20th Street, 8th Floor New
York
> > NEW YORK 10011
> >
> > 1st, only 2 of those belong to your new friends. I wonder if they are
> > harassing the others too? 2nd, the earliest date where I see a
registration
> > filed is June 9, 1998. That aside, I can see their point, but come-on
..
> > bothering a "not-for-profit" site that exists to benefit the web
development
> > community as a whole ... that's so, Microsoft of them.
> >
> > Did they make any demands?
> >
> > Todd Ashworth
> > -----------------------------------------
> > CEO, Janty Corporation
> > www.janty.com - We put the 'u' in music!
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Steve Nelson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Fusebox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2000 3:13 PM
> > Subject: Fusebox.org BAD NEWS.... READ THIS
> >
> > | Everyone, listen up... we've got an issue at hand with Fusebox.org
that
> > | I do not know how to handle, so I am asking for everyone's wisdom.
> > |
> > | I just received a rather negative call from Fusebox.COM (note the
.com)
> > | saying that we as fusebox.org are stepping on their brand name. Here
> > | are their issues:
> > |
> > | 1. They are a web development consulting company, they do everything
> > | from graphics to programming (including CF)
> > | 2. They have owned the trademark to "Fusebox" since 1995
> > | 3. They are about to go on a big marketing push and are concerned that
> > | people will confuse fusebox.com with .org
> > | 4. They claim to have a development methodology for building web
sites.
> > | http://www.fusebox.com/fb_pages1/main2.cfm?s=services&c=services
> > | (note, they have left out testing) ;)
> > |
> > | I responded with these points:
> > |
> > | 1. We are a free organization that anyone can belong to, and have been
> > | around since 1998
> > | 2. We do not directly make any money. Everything is donated. Thus we
> > | couldn't directly take money away from them
> > | 3. We did not put up fusebox.org to try and draw people away from
> > | fusebox.com, that has never
> > | been our intention and never will be
> > | 4. We have over 1800 people that are active users in our process, many
> > | of which whom have built
> > | their business plans around these ideas, changing the name would
> > | directly affect those companies.
> > |
> > | Nothing has been resolved yet, I would like to hear as many people's
> > | opinions and suggestions on this as possible. All I know is that I'm
> > | ready and willing to fight this all the way to the end.
> > |
> > | Why? Because of this quote I just got through ICQ WHILE i was writing
> > | this email (no kidding)
> > |
> > | "Just have to tell you that Fusebox is making my life so much easier.
> > | Just finished a small project in 8 hours. Something that would have
> > | taken me 20 - 30 hours 2 months ago." - Michael Slatoff
> > |
> > | Let's talk about this, and see if we can come up with something to
offer
> > | them.
> > |
> > | Steve Nelson
> > | http://www.SecretAgents.com
> > | Tools for Fusebox Developers
> >
>
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