For the policy... someone who is licensed to sell insurance, for advise on
what the policy should cover the .org for - both agent and attorney.
Somebody set up the PayPal account :-)
BTW, Im not certain who owns/registered the domain Fusebox.org - Im guessing
it was you Mr. Steve Neslon... therefore if there was a policy to be
placed - due to a lack of a formal entity (Not For Profit status) it may
need to be in your name Steve Nelson d.b.a. Fusebox.org - my thinking leads
me to the conclusion that if the "Lit" hits the fan - it'd be directed at
you - personally - sad to say.
Is this a great country or what!!
Steve Aylor
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Nelson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Fusebox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2000 6:46 AM
Subject: Re: Fusebox.org BAD NEWS..Fishing Expedition - fornicate them!!!
> Would we talk to a lawyer or an insurance agent for this? I'll
> definitely add to the pot for this, and I'm sure we could get a few
> others to do so too. Could you do a small bit of research and let us
> know about your findings on this?
>
> Steve
>
> Stephen M Aylor wrote:
> >
> > These pinheads are fishing to take everyone's temperature.
> >
> > Steve.... may I suggest placing some sort of liability insurance policy
that
> > addresses patent infringement/trademark issues. Cheapest lawfirm
retainer
> > you'll be able to get. Fusebox.org would then at least get a good
defense
> > out of the deal - possibly, if it came to that.
> >
> > My experience has been that it would be in the premium range of $1,500 -
> > $2,000 and would have a $1k-$5k deductible before the defense kicked
in -
> > depending on the carrier selected.
> >
> > If I was able to do the placement, I would donate 100% of the commission
it
> > generated back towards paying the premium (usually about 10% of gross
> > premium). I can also point you in the direction of some facilities if
you
> > wanted to handle it directly - but likely they wouldnt give back the 10%
:-)
> >
> > Steve
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Steve Nelson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Fusebox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2000 2:07 PM
> > Subject: Re: Fusebox.org BAD NEWS.... READ THIS
> >
> > > They didn't make any demands, but asked if we would be willing to
> > > relinquish the name.
> > >
> > > I told them it would affect a lot of people if I gave up the name, so
I
> > > wasn't ready to do that.
> > >
> > >
> > > They also asked if we change the look of our site to theirs.
> > >
> > > I wasn't open to changing the look of the site because I didn't want
to
> > > confuse people into thinking that fusebox.org is a for-profit
> > > organization associated with fusebox.com.
> > >
> > > Steve Nelson
> > >
> > > "Janty.com Development Staff" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > TMs for fusebox:
> > > >
> > > > 1. Computer software for collaborative multimedia authoring and
> > distribution
> > > > August 4, 2000
> > > > Improv Technologies, Inc. CORPORATION DELAWARE 23 East 31st Street
14th
> > > > Floor Penthouse New York NEW YORK 10016
> > > >
> > > > 2. IC 025. US 022 039. G & S: Clothing for adults and children,
namely
> > > > T-shirts, tank tops, golf shirts, denim shirts, sweat shirts, sweat
> > pants,
> > > > sweaters, shorts, bike shorts, sports bras, socks and hats. FIRST
USE:
> > > > 19950616. FIRST USE IN COMMERCE: 19950616
> > > > IC 042. US 100 101. G & S: Computer services, namely designing and
> > > > maintaining web sites and web pages; developing and customizing
computer
> > > > software and hardware; designing and implementing information
> > architecture,
> > > > tracking and analysis tools, intranet and content management tools,
> > custom
> > > > applications, e-commerce and auction functions; interactive
advertising,
> > > > database, network and legacy information integration; providing
> > broadband
> > > > delivery and hosting functions; designing, developing, providing and
> > > > syndicating content, including animation, 3D design, realtime
streaming
> > > > media, audio and video programming webcasting and multimedia
Consulting
> > > > services, namely assisting others in internet related business and
> > creative
> > > > strategy and financial analysis, brand identification and
development,
> > > > technology and bandwidth planning and management, mixed media
> > advertising
> > > > and marketing campaigns, sales and marketing materials, art
direction
> > and
> > > > design, and competitive website analysis. FIRST USE: 19950616. FIRST
USE
> > IN
> > > > COMMERCE: 19950616
> > > > June 5, 2000
> > > > Fusebox, Inc. CORPORATION NEW YORK 36 West 20th Street New York NEW
YORK
> > > > 10011
> > > >
> > > > 3. G & S: computer software for composing, animating, or
controlling
> > > > virtual environments to be used for real time simulation. FIRST USE:
> > > > 19961201. FIRST USE IN COMMERCE: 19961201
> > > > October 12, 1999
> > > > EVANS & SUTHERLAND COMPUTER CORPORATION CORPORATION UTAH 600 Komas
Drive
> > > > Salt Lake City UTAH 84158
> > > >
> > > > 4. G & S: computer services, namely, creating and maintaining web
sites
> > for
> > > > others. FIRST USE: 19950616. FIRST USE IN COMMERCE: 19950616
> > > > June 9, 1998
> > > > FUSEBOX, INC. CORPORATION NEW YORK 36 West 20th Street, 8th Floor
New
> > York
> > > > NEW YORK 10011
> > > >
> > > > 1st, only 2 of those belong to your new friends. I wonder if they
are
> > > > harassing the others too? 2nd, the earliest date where I see a
> > registration
> > > > filed is June 9, 1998. That aside, I can see their point, but
come-on
> > ..
> > > > bothering a "not-for-profit" site that exists to benefit the web
> > development
> > > > community as a whole ... that's so, Microsoft of them.
> > > >
> > > > Did they make any demands?
> > > >
> > > > Todd Ashworth
> > > > -----------------------------------------
> > > > CEO, Janty Corporation
> > > > www.janty.com - We put the 'u' in music!
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Steve Nelson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > To: "Fusebox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2000 3:13 PM
> > > > Subject: Fusebox.org BAD NEWS.... READ THIS
> > > >
> > > > | Everyone, listen up... we've got an issue at hand with
Fusebox.org
> > that
> > > > | I do not know how to handle, so I am asking for everyone's wisdom.
> > > > |
> > > > | I just received a rather negative call from Fusebox.COM (note the
> > .com)
> > > > | saying that we as fusebox.org are stepping on their brand name.
Here
> > > > | are their issues:
> > > > |
> > > > | 1. They are a web development consulting company, they do
everything
> > > > | from graphics to programming (including CF)
> > > > | 2. They have owned the trademark to "Fusebox" since 1995
> > > > | 3. They are about to go on a big marketing push and are concerned
that
> > > > | people will confuse fusebox.com with .org
> > > > | 4. They claim to have a development methodology for building web
> > sites.
> > > > | http://www.fusebox.com/fb_pages1/main2.cfm?s=services&c=services
> > > > | (note, they have left out testing) ;)
> > > > |
> > > > | I responded with these points:
> > > > |
> > > > | 1. We are a free organization that anyone can belong to, and have
been
> > > > | around since 1998
> > > > | 2. We do not directly make any money. Everything is donated.
Thus we
> > > > | couldn't directly take money away from them
> > > > | 3. We did not put up fusebox.org to try and draw people away from
> > > > | fusebox.com, that has never
> > > > | been our intention and never will be
> > > > | 4. We have over 1800 people that are active users in our process,
many
> > > > | of which whom have built
> > > > | their business plans around these ideas, changing the name would
> > > > | directly affect those companies.
> > > > |
> > > > | Nothing has been resolved yet, I would like to hear as many
people's
> > > > | opinions and suggestions on this as possible. All I know is that
I'm
> > > > | ready and willing to fight this all the way to the end.
> > > > |
> > > > | Why? Because of this quote I just got through ICQ WHILE i was
writing
> > > > | this email (no kidding)
> > > > |
> > > > | "Just have to tell you that Fusebox is making my life so much
easier.
> > > > | Just finished a small project in 8 hours. Something that would
have
> > > > | taken me 20 - 30 hours 2 months ago." - Michael Slatoff
> > > > |
> > > > | Let's talk about this, and see if we can come up with something to
> > offer
> > > > | them.
> > > > |
> > > > | Steve Nelson
> > > > | http://www.SecretAgents.com
> > > > | Tools for Fusebox Developers
> > > >
> > >
> >
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