Would we talk to a lawyer or an insurance agent for this? I'll
definitely add to the pot for this, and I'm sure we could get a few
others to do so too. Could you do a small bit of research and let us
know about your findings on this?
Steve
Stephen M Aylor wrote:
>
> These pinheads are fishing to take everyone's temperature.
>
> Steve.... may I suggest placing some sort of liability insurance policy that
> addresses patent infringement/trademark issues. Cheapest lawfirm retainer
> you'll be able to get. Fusebox.org would then at least get a good defense
> out of the deal - possibly, if it came to that.
>
> My experience has been that it would be in the premium range of $1,500 -
> $2,000 and would have a $1k-$5k deductible before the defense kicked in -
> depending on the carrier selected.
>
> If I was able to do the placement, I would donate 100% of the commission it
> generated back towards paying the premium (usually about 10% of gross
> premium). I can also point you in the direction of some facilities if you
> wanted to handle it directly - but likely they wouldnt give back the 10% :-)
>
> Steve
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Steve Nelson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Fusebox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2000 2:07 PM
> Subject: Re: Fusebox.org BAD NEWS.... READ THIS
>
> > They didn't make any demands, but asked if we would be willing to
> > relinquish the name.
> >
> > I told them it would affect a lot of people if I gave up the name, so I
> > wasn't ready to do that.
> >
> >
> > They also asked if we change the look of our site to theirs.
> >
> > I wasn't open to changing the look of the site because I didn't want to
> > confuse people into thinking that fusebox.org is a for-profit
> > organization associated with fusebox.com.
> >
> > Steve Nelson
> >
> > "Janty.com Development Staff" wrote:
> > >
> > > TMs for fusebox:
> > >
> > > 1. Computer software for collaborative multimedia authoring and
> distribution
> > > August 4, 2000
> > > Improv Technologies, Inc. CORPORATION DELAWARE 23 East 31st Street 14th
> > > Floor Penthouse New York NEW YORK 10016
> > >
> > > 2. IC 025. US 022 039. G & S: Clothing for adults and children, namely
> > > T-shirts, tank tops, golf shirts, denim shirts, sweat shirts, sweat
> pants,
> > > sweaters, shorts, bike shorts, sports bras, socks and hats. FIRST USE:
> > > 19950616. FIRST USE IN COMMERCE: 19950616
> > > IC 042. US 100 101. G & S: Computer services, namely designing and
> > > maintaining web sites and web pages; developing and customizing computer
> > > software and hardware; designing and implementing information
> architecture,
> > > tracking and analysis tools, intranet and content management tools,
> custom
> > > applications, e-commerce and auction functions; interactive advertising,
> > > database, network and legacy information integration; providing
> broadband
> > > delivery and hosting functions; designing, developing, providing and
> > > syndicating content, including animation, 3D design, realtime streaming
> > > media, audio and video programming webcasting and multimedia Consulting
> > > services, namely assisting others in internet related business and
> creative
> > > strategy and financial analysis, brand identification and development,
> > > technology and bandwidth planning and management, mixed media
> advertising
> > > and marketing campaigns, sales and marketing materials, art direction
> and
> > > design, and competitive website analysis. FIRST USE: 19950616. FIRST USE
> IN
> > > COMMERCE: 19950616
> > > June 5, 2000
> > > Fusebox, Inc. CORPORATION NEW YORK 36 West 20th Street New York NEW YORK
> > > 10011
> > >
> > > 3. G & S: computer software for composing, animating, or controlling
> > > virtual environments to be used for real time simulation. FIRST USE:
> > > 19961201. FIRST USE IN COMMERCE: 19961201
> > > October 12, 1999
> > > EVANS & SUTHERLAND COMPUTER CORPORATION CORPORATION UTAH 600 Komas Drive
> > > Salt Lake City UTAH 84158
> > >
> > > 4. G & S: computer services, namely, creating and maintaining web sites
> for
> > > others. FIRST USE: 19950616. FIRST USE IN COMMERCE: 19950616
> > > June 9, 1998
> > > FUSEBOX, INC. CORPORATION NEW YORK 36 West 20th Street, 8th Floor New
> York
> > > NEW YORK 10011
> > >
> > > 1st, only 2 of those belong to your new friends. I wonder if they are
> > > harassing the others too? 2nd, the earliest date where I see a
> registration
> > > filed is June 9, 1998. That aside, I can see their point, but come-on
> ..
> > > bothering a "not-for-profit" site that exists to benefit the web
> development
> > > community as a whole ... that's so, Microsoft of them.
> > >
> > > Did they make any demands?
> > >
> > > Todd Ashworth
> > > -----------------------------------------
> > > CEO, Janty Corporation
> > > www.janty.com - We put the 'u' in music!
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Steve Nelson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: "Fusebox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2000 3:13 PM
> > > Subject: Fusebox.org BAD NEWS.... READ THIS
> > >
> > > | Everyone, listen up... we've got an issue at hand with Fusebox.org
> that
> > > | I do not know how to handle, so I am asking for everyone's wisdom.
> > > |
> > > | I just received a rather negative call from Fusebox.COM (note the
> .com)
> > > | saying that we as fusebox.org are stepping on their brand name. Here
> > > | are their issues:
> > > |
> > > | 1. They are a web development consulting company, they do everything
> > > | from graphics to programming (including CF)
> > > | 2. They have owned the trademark to "Fusebox" since 1995
> > > | 3. They are about to go on a big marketing push and are concerned that
> > > | people will confuse fusebox.com with .org
> > > | 4. They claim to have a development methodology for building web
> sites.
> > > | http://www.fusebox.com/fb_pages1/main2.cfm?s=services&c=services
> > > | (note, they have left out testing) ;)
> > > |
> > > | I responded with these points:
> > > |
> > > | 1. We are a free organization that anyone can belong to, and have been
> > > | around since 1998
> > > | 2. We do not directly make any money. Everything is donated. Thus we
> > > | couldn't directly take money away from them
> > > | 3. We did not put up fusebox.org to try and draw people away from
> > > | fusebox.com, that has never
> > > | been our intention and never will be
> > > | 4. We have over 1800 people that are active users in our process, many
> > > | of which whom have built
> > > | their business plans around these ideas, changing the name would
> > > | directly affect those companies.
> > > |
> > > | Nothing has been resolved yet, I would like to hear as many people's
> > > | opinions and suggestions on this as possible. All I know is that I'm
> > > | ready and willing to fight this all the way to the end.
> > > |
> > > | Why? Because of this quote I just got through ICQ WHILE i was writing
> > > | this email (no kidding)
> > > |
> > > | "Just have to tell you that Fusebox is making my life so much easier.
> > > | Just finished a small project in 8 hours. Something that would have
> > > | taken me 20 - 30 hours 2 months ago." - Michael Slatoff
> > > |
> > > | Let's talk about this, and see if we can come up with something to
> offer
> > > | them.
> > > |
> > > | Steve Nelson
> > > | http://www.SecretAgents.com
> > > | Tools for Fusebox Developers
> > >
> >
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