----- Original Message -----
From: Ed Weick
Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2004 8:57 AM
Subject: Re: [Futurework] Possible U.S. cutbacks?

Hi Chris,
 
I guess I was speaking from personal experience.
 
Ed

----- Original Message -----
From: "Christoph Reuss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2004 10:47 AM
Subject: Re: [Futurework] Possible U.S. cutbacks?

> Ed Weick wrote:
> > I don't consider pot a drug.  It's not addictive.
>
> It is addictive (see below).  Or why else do you think
> there are Marijuana Addiction Treatment Programs like
>
http://www.solutions4recovery.com/marijuana.htm ?
>
> Denial won't solve problems -- on the contrary.
>
> Chris

The "addiction" from marijuana when no other intoxicants or drugs are used is minimal; physical desires are gone within 3 to 5 days although the smoking of the plant creates a similar addiction, if there is high usage, as cigarettes from the tar and slight nicotine content.
 

>
>
http://abcnews.go.com/sections/living/DailyNews/marijuana0331.html
>
> Looks Like Marijuana's Addictive
> More Evidence in Study
>
> W A S H I N G T O N,   March 31 - Troubled teens who use marijuana can
> quickly become dependent on the drug, Colorado researchers report.
>
> More than two-thirds of teens referred for treatment by social service or
> criminal justice agencies complained of withdrawal symptoms when they
> stopped using marijuana, Dr. Thomas Crowley of the University of Colorado
> and colleagues reported.
 
There is always a withdrawal "episode" from anything that has been abused - even sugar or coffee. If we are considering those users who smoke to relieve their emotional problems, then it is not used recreationally, it is being used as an escape or a band-aid solution because the medical establishment will not or cannot treat the emotional problems reasonably or safely. The use of pharmaceuticals (anti-depressants or the harder psychotropics) is usually much more damaging to the individual (physically, due to side-effects, and emotionally) and creates a much more intense "addiction" than marijuana.

> "This study provides additional important data to better illustrate that
> marijuana is a dangerous drug that can be addictive," Dr. Alan Leshner,
>
head of the National Institute on Drug Abuse (NIDA), which paid for the
> study, said in a statement.
This is the root of the problem here. This is a federally funded organization and if the findings are not those the government wishes to see, the report is shelved and the researchers and director are fired
 
> "It also identifies the devastating impact marijuana dependence can have on
> young people and highlights the fact that many both need and want help
> dealing with their addiction," he added.
>
> Crowley's team at the university's Addiction Research and Treatment Service
> studied interviews, medical examinations and social histories of 165 boys
> and 64 girls aged 13 to 19.
 
When we speak of children this age, we are speaking of people who are not physically mature and no where near emotionally mature. Any escape from their pain will be sought by them if their caregivers and/or doctors cannot help them. And to leave that escape will be difficult and may be construed as withdrawal.

> More than 80 percent of the boys and 60 percent of the girls were
> clinically dependent on marijuana.
There is no chemical dependency on marijuana. If there were, one would be unable to leave the substance for even a day without severe physical and emotional upheaval.

> When asked, 97 percent of the teens said they still used marijuana even
> after realizing it had become a problem for them.
>
> Eighty-five percent admitted their habit interfered with driving, school,
> work and home life, while 77 percent said they spent "much time" getting,
> using or recovering from the effects of marijuana, according to the study,
> published in the journal Drug and Alcohol Dependence.
This is absurd propaganda. These are high percentages of an extremely small group and would never in any other field be considered an appropriate statistic

> Most also said their problems started before they started using marijuana.
 
Note the above line carefully. Marijuana was not the problem. The problems began before. Therefore, treat the problem not the result of the problem.
 
> "About 825,000 youths were arrested and formally processed by juvenile
> courts in 1994," Crowley said in a statement.
>
> Negatives Tests, High Risk
> "About 50 percent of these youths tested positive for marijuana at the time
> of arrest and many fit the profile of the teens in this study, making them
> at high risk for marijuana dependence," he added.
The current medical establishment would have made these same individuals extremely dependent upon any of the "prescription drugs" (is Prozac a big seller these days?) as well as damaging the liver or other organs or glandular activity. Some anti-psychotics come with a higher price, requiring heart monitoring for their use. A friend of ours died at age 45 due to heart failure from one. In most cases, because these drugs work only for a small percentage of patients, there is a distinct inability to access creativity because feelings are controlled and suppressed. Life is not worth living when you feel like that for prolonged periods of time. Withdrawl from Prozac and most its contemporaries often leads to suicide, or a different presciption of similar ilk--again resulting in the "revolving door syndrome" of the mental health systems. The cost to society is two-fold, and to the individual it is most often at the cost of quality of life or life itself.
 
FYI--Prozac was developed by Eli Lilly, released by its CEO George Bush Sr. around 1987, when he was serving as Vice President. No conflict there! Also, this drug is still classified by the U.S. military as a mind control devise.

> "The challenge now becomes to develop highly effective methods to treat
> high-risk adolescents dependent on marijuana," Leshner said.
>
> President Clinton's anti-drug leader Barry McCaffrey said 50,000 young
> people seek treatment for marijuana dependence every year.
 
If these same young people sought and received quality help for the problems they were attempting to escape in their own homes, they would not be claiming addiction to marijuana and may (or may not) have used it recreationally.
 
> "This important study underscores what drug treatment professionals have
> long recognized: that marijuana is a dangerous drug, (propaganda) and its use can lead
> to severe consequences for vulnerable young people," McCaffrey said in a
> statement.
Consequences - possibly. Every action is like a ripple that spreads outward; if you drive under the influence, you may have an accident. If, however, you invite some friends over and sit around discussing Tolkein, you may pursue some fascinating ideologies. But currently the only REAL consequences are those applied by the state as it attempts to ruin the lives of these individuals. Remember, it was mostly Dupont along with cotton industries in the 20's who lobbied the U.S. government to make it illegal. The hemp industry, which had nothing to do with pot, was a threat to Dupont's well being because hemp fibres are quite tough, have a 4-1 biomass advantage over wood, and can be grown without pesticide. All of those European countries now barren of trees must have followed suit, but the cost to their environment (discussed a few weeks ago) was what you have today--along with high winds, high heat, fierce cold and flooding. Big corporations lie, and in this matter there is no difference. To keep pot outlawed translates into high profits for pharmaceuticals, and scapegoats for the real criminals performing white collar crimes, rapes, spousal and child abuse, polluters, and of course those legal drug producers.
 

> Drug abuse experts say the problem is a physical, not a moral one and say
 
For marijuana it is neither physical nor moral, it is not a barbituate which is what these people normally deal with.

> drug addicts should be treated like anyone else with a disease rather than
> jailed.
 
This is the first true and honest statement of this report.
Chris, to pull one very limited report and hold it up as God's Truth, as well as it being from a country that has waged war on this plant ever since the tobacco and alcohol lobby of the late 20's sought to rid themselves of this competition to their profits, is not what I have grown to expect from you.
 
Darryl
 
 
 

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