Chris,

I have no idea what you mean by free traders - you seem
confused.

I'll try again. Free trade means that a country removes the
tariffs, quotas, and dumping laws that prevent goods
entering the country.

That's all.

You seem to have great difficulty understanding such a
simple and reasonable idea. 

Such things as health regulations aren't touched. Why should
they be?

Tariffs, quotas, and dumping laws exist to protect the
people you quite rightly call "coercers". Removing them
takes away some of their power to coerce.

Not all of it - major coercive powers still exist. All free
trade does is to increase the size of the cake. How this
larger cake is distributed is another matter. It is better
to take things one at a time.

Being against this larger cake is a Luddite idea - just as
they essentially tried to limit production  by breaking
machines so do protectionists try to limit production with
their "bought and paid for" legislation.

The neo-cons, whom you dislike, are with you on this. They
want managed trade as fervently as their socialist friends.
(They may not be friends, but their views on managed trade
is the same.)

 We Liberals have fighting against the Conservatives and
Socialists for well over a century and always socialists and
conservatives have adopted the same policy - though with
different names.

We have been fighting for Liberty and Justice for All.

Seems to me that the Conservatives spend so much time on
freedom, they have none left for justice, whereas the
socialists concentrate on justice to the exclusion of
freedom.

In any event, Both start wide and move towards the center -
where freedom diminishes and justice disappears.

Harry

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christoph Reuss
> Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 2:05 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [Futurework] Avian Flu report
> 
> Ed Weick wrote:
> > Chris, in advanced economies, even the predator class
(as you put
> it) must
> > conform to regulations set out by officials responsible
for public
> health.
> > The animal to human pandemic danger is strongest where
there is
> no
> > regulatory system or only a very poor one, and large
numbers of
> people
> > live in close proximity with their animals, as in parts
of China,
> where
> > people have been catching something from pigs and
chickens.
> 
> Yep, and the Free Traders usually aim to remove or weaken
> regulations,
> but in this report's conclusion they suddenly turn coats,
or so they
> say...
> as long as the Tax Payer will foot the bill, that's okay
with them.
> (see my 2nd posting in this thread)
> 
> Chris
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