Natalia,
the Freudian dishonesty and diversions of your debating style make it
difficult to have a constructive discussion.  For example:

> | > or people who are in favour of decriminalizing a societal problem?
> |
> | Problems can't be decriminalized, only solved or aggravated.
> | Decriminalizing drugs aggravates the "societal problem" of drug use.
> | (The problem of drug mugging can be solved with the controlled provision
> | of drugs in detox programs.)
>
> *****Controlled provision applies to hard drugs. The societal problem is
> not the drug use, the drug use is a manifestation of the societal problem
> of depression/oppression.

First, you talked about "decriminalizing a societal problem", when the
issue was decriminalization of drugs.  After I explained that problems
can't be decriminalized, you suddenly assert that the societal problem
is depression/oppression.  So you want to decriminalize depression/
oppression.  You just don't make sense.  Perhaps you had too much drugs?

Even if you want to decriminalize *symptoms* of depression/oppression,
this doesn't solve the underlying problem at all -- it even compounds it.
That is why the U$ "war on drugs" is not honest.

Your umpteenth strawmen about alcohol misuse and the U$ "war on drugs"
make just as little sense.

For example, your rhetorical question about the controlled provision of
alcoholic beverages.  Where's the problem?  There would simply be no
alcoholic beverages available in the shops, restaurants etc., and anyone
who can't be without alcohol is outing themselves as alcohol addicts,
so will receive the benefit of a rehab treatment.

Btw, the largest Swiss retail chain sells no alcohol and no tobacco
products at all, and offers smoke-free restaurants nation-wide.
It doesn't seem to go out of business...

Your complaint about druggies filling the jails just makes my point.
In a society that uses a genuine, preventive approach against drugs,
that wouldn't happen.  If anything, this approach "is to avoid ruining
the lives of mostly youngsters", whereas further drug legalization
would ruin their lives even more.  Your silence to my question of
"what could be worse than that" (booming drug use among youth) is
quite telling.  Instead, you complain that I am "the one who is
redesigning the concept of decriminalization."  Well, obviously
it's high time to redesign it.

You didn't get my comparison with legalizing murder at all.
The point was that a problem cannot be solved by legalizing it --
that would only make it worse i.e. more widespread.

Your dishonesty continues in denying that you asserted that drugs
enhance mental abilities.  What else can the term "drug-inspired works"
mean?  This means that drugs inspired the person to create works they
couldn't have created without drugs.  You keep ignoring that at least
in the long run, drugs reduce mental abilities, and addicts soon have
too many problems with addiction in itself to be able to think of
creative activities, or even function in daily life.  Instead of
praising "drug-inspired" music, how about considering what music
would have been possible in a drug-free, best-nourished world?


> But you haven't actually delved into psychology, and are rushing to
> bring in "help" by citing expert opinions--a telltale sign that your
> arguments need outside support--yet you are not providing any expert
> arguments that deny Freud's important place in the field. You're
> trying to bluff your way out******

Nonsense.  I cited experts because you wanted to dismiss my position as
an exotic/layman view.

As for books on nutrition, well you may have read them but you didn't
seem to draw the right conclusions from them.  Maybe drugs stood in the way.


> *******Chris, you're pugnacious as hell, rarely speak but to criticize,
> and I've yet to hear you compliment anyone.****

Compliments are boring and add no information.  The bad state of affairs
can only be improved with criticism, not with compliments.

Chris




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