"Mike Hollinshead tells me there is a similar wave pattern around economics. Anyone know anything about that?"
Kondratieff waves. I wrote a paper on that back in 1979. I guess you could say I know something about it. On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 7:46 PM, Ray Harrell <[email protected]> wrote: > 2012 will be ten cycles of 52 years exactly sing 1492. What do we call > those ten cycles? Heaven or Hell? Actually hell is supposed to be 13 > cycles. So we have three left over. Three the sacred number > for……………who? Well we have the three Elder Fires that are representative > of the Great Mystery. Or maybe something was going on here and in > Europe in 1336. Anyone have any ideas? Mike Hollinshead tells me > there is a similar wave pattern around economics. Anyone know anything > about that? We say that it could be the beginning of the 9 heavens but > we would have to be up to it.:>)) I don’t know, I’m doing housework and > I’m tired. 500 seems like a lot to contemplate. I’m just teaching my > classes and trying to give away all of this stuff that I have accumulated > over 52 years of teaching. Oops! 52 again. Am I sixty seven or sixty > eight? > > > > REH > > > > *From:* [email protected] [mailto: > [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Michael Gurstein > *Sent:* Saturday, August 28, 2010 4:28 PM > *To:* 'RE-DESIGNING WORK, INCOME DISTRIBUTION, EDUCATION' > *Subject:* [Futurework] FW: The Next 500 Years > > > > And this one seems to tie it all together--Ray's speaking from and with his > ancestors, Mike's digressions about quantum physics, and my positioning for > something anchored in the urban flow... > > > > M > > > > -----Original Message----- > *From:* [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf > Of *Sid Shniad > *Sent:* Saturday, August 28, 2010 11:47 AM > *Subject:* The Next 500 Years > > http://www.commondreams.org/view/2010/08/26 > > > CommonDreams.org <http://www.commondreams.org/> > August 26, 2010 > The Next 500 Years > > by Robert C. Koehler > > The participants in this unique dialogue may have been doing no less than > opening the window on the next 500 years. > > As scary and stupefying as our world sometimes seems, we are at a place of > enormous potential right now -- a transition point of unprecedented > understanding among cultures and peoples and worldviews. Pushing that > understanding, creating, in the words of the late physicist David Bohm, a > milieu of "participatory consciousness" among radically diverse thinkers, is > the idea behind the Language of Spirit Conference, sponsored by the SEED > Graduate Institute, which has been held in Albuquerque every year since > 1999. > > Last week I attended the 12th annual Language of Spirit Conference, which > brought together Western scientists and scholars and Native North American > and Australian scientists, philosophers and storytellers, not to argue, but > to grope for commonality at the far reaches of their belief systems. The > original dialogues, convened by Bohm and Leroy Little Bear (former director > of Native Studies at Harvard) in Kalamazoo, Mich., in 1992, came about > because Little Bear, who was well-versed in the developments of quantum > physics, realized that Western science had reached the end of linear thought > and finally got it: The universe is a living, conscious, interconnected > organism. > > This is how the world's indigenous people see things. They always have. > Reverently tied to place, they have been the natural world's caretakers for > thousands of years. They are *of* the world, living not just sustainably > but in intimate relationship with their sacred piece of Planet Earth. > > "We are a people who never made singing or dancing unrespected ways of > knowing," said Pat McCabe, a Navajo writer and scholar who also goes by the > name Woman Stands Shining. "All of the five-fingered ways of knowing > remained open to us." > > And now . . . now . . . 500 years after Western conquistadors subdued and > divided the planet, devastating indigenous people on every continent and, > while they were at it, pushing the natural world to the brink of > eco-collapse, we are turning -- some of us -- to the wisdom of connectedness > that has been ours for the asking all along. > > This isn't easy or simple. Our disconnect from one another, from ourselves > and from the natural world is embedded in the Western languages, which break > the world into millions of discrete, manipulable pieces, called nouns ("My > name is Matthew. I'm a nounaholic," cried linguist Matthew Bronson). > Westerners control reality through language, but they don't evoke it. > Indigenous languages are, as I am slowly coming to understand them, > verb-based, intrinsically linking speaker and object in a flow of motion > that cannot be linguistically sliced and diced. > > Just as I began writing this column, the New Yorker arrived in the mail. On > the cover of the Aug. 30 issue is a drawing of a middle-aged white guy > sitting on a beach chair at the edge of the ocean, smugly pointing a TV > remote at it -- perfectly illustrating the disconnected, control-fixated > Westerner the Language of Spirit Conference was addressing . . . the one who > has done so much harm. > > With eerie synchronicity, the water on the New Yorker cover flows back to > the dialogue. Speaking about the BP oil spill, SEED founder Glenn Aparicio > Parry noted in amazement, "The mainstream world believes that water is dead > -- yet we're 70 percent water." > > "The assumption of the laws (of science)," said biophysicist Beverly Rubik, > "is that we're a non-living universe. We ought to start over. We have a > science that starts with deadness. It's time to revision science -- in a > living universe." > > These words begin to get at the vibration of the conference -- this > exercise in participatory consciousness -- which struck at the core of > something vital. The ostensible subject of the 12th Language of Spirit > dialogue was time. The speakers dismantled linear time, the kind that moves > in a straight line and pulls us along on its track. (In the U.S., time > wasn't standardized till 1886, when the railroads demanded it.) Nonlinear > time -- the timelessness of dreaming, reverence, prayer and awe -- filled > the room, and I could feel the living universe pulse. It pulsed with love. > > "The eagle is more valuable to you alive" than as merely a source of > feathers, said Chickasaw poet Linda Hogan. "The sacred thing is the life > force." > > It also pulsed with anger. Writer M.J. Zimmerman, speaking about SEED > spiritual mentor Leon Secatero, who died in 2008, said: "Grandfather Leon > always talked about getting ready for the next 500 years. We're in a > transition point. The anger of colonization should not be brought into the > next 500 years. > > "Hurt people hurt people," she added. "Europeans have moved into every part > of this planet and hurt people." She offered the plea that we in the > disconnected West find our own roots, dig "way back into our own traumatic > history" and begin to heal our brokenness. > > And for the first time in my life I found myself groping in the darkness of > my own past, beyond a few generations of known ancestors and beyond my > identity as an American, toward an ancient tribal commonality that has > fallen out of history, and I felt a slow give in the assumptions of my life. > > "Everyone is indigenous," said Jill Milroy, dean of the School of > Indigenous Studies at the University of Western Australia. Perhaps knowing > this is the first step in envisioning the next 500 years. > > © 2010 Tribune Media Services, Inc. > > *Robert Koehler is an award-winning, Chicago-based journalist and > nationally syndicated writer. You can respond to this column at > [email protected] or visit his Web site at commonwonders.com.)* > > > > > > > !DSPAM:2676,4c795db7177553508518627! > > _______________________________________________ > Futurework mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.uwaterloo.ca/mailman/listinfo/futurework > > -- Sandwichman
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