On Mandel's Late Capitalism, see:
http://www.marxists.org/archive/mattick-paul/1972/mandel.htm

On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 1:12 PM, Sandwichman <[email protected]> wrote:

> It's a long story. Kondratieff studied historical time series for prices
> and detected an approximately 50-year cycle of expansion and contraction.
> Ernest Mandel revisited Kondratieff's findings in his 1972 book, Late
> Capitalism, and supplied a theoretical explanation for it. In my paper, I
> elaborated on Mandel's explanation and developed a hypothesis that the
> timing of the long waves was dictated by generational succession. The
> behavior and attitudes of people who have grown up under a given level of
> technology and living standards -- and thus take them for granted -- is
> quite different than that of people who were already mature when the changes
> were occurring. Some years later, Jerry Lembcke wrote an article published
> in Science and Society, "Why 50 Years? Working - Class Formation and Long
> Economic Cycles." that came to similar conclusions. In the 1990s I had a web
> page on the Kondratieff waves, but not even the Wayback Machine can retrieve
> it now.
>
>
> On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 9:15 AM, Ray Harrell <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>  Would you refresh us?
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>> REH
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>> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:
>> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Sandwichman
>> *Sent:* Sunday, August 29, 2010 12:06 PM
>>
>> *To:* RE-DESIGNING WORK, INCOME DISTRIBUTION, EDUCATION
>> *Subject:* Re: [Futurework] FW: The Next 500 Years
>>
>>
>>
>> "Mike Hollinshead tells me there is a similar wave pattern around
>> economics.    Anyone know anything about that?"
>>
>> Kondratieff waves. I wrote a paper on that back in 1979. I guess you could
>> say I know something about it.
>>
>>  On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 7:46 PM, Ray Harrell <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> 2012 will be ten cycles of 52 years exactly sing 1492.    What do we call
>> those ten cycles?    Heaven or Hell?   Actually hell is supposed to be 13
>> cycles.  So we have three left over.   Three the sacred number
>> for……………who?     Well we have the three Elder Fires that are representative
>> of the Great Mystery.     Or maybe something was going on  here and in
>> Europe in 1336.    Anyone have any ideas?     Mike Hollinshead tells me
>> there is a similar wave pattern around economics.    Anyone know anything
>> about that?      We say that it could be the beginning of the 9 heavens but
>> we would have to be up to it.:>))    I don’t know, I’m doing housework and
>> I’m tired.    500 seems like a lot to contemplate.   I’m just teaching my
>> classes and trying to give away all of this stuff that I have accumulated
>> over 52 years of teaching.   Oops!    52 again.   Am I sixty seven or sixty
>> eight?
>>
>>
>>
>> REH
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:
>> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Michael Gurstein
>> *Sent:* Saturday, August 28, 2010 4:28 PM
>> *To:* 'RE-DESIGNING WORK, INCOME DISTRIBUTION, EDUCATION'
>> *Subject:* [Futurework] FW: The Next 500 Years
>>
>>
>>
>> And this one seems to tie it all together--Ray's speaking from and with
>> his ancestors, Mike's digressions about quantum physics, and my positioning
>> for something anchored in the urban flow...
>>
>>
>>
>> M
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>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf
>> Of *Sid Shniad
>> *Sent:* Saturday, August 28, 2010 11:47 AM
>> *Subject:* The Next 500 Years
>>
>> http://www.commondreams.org/view/2010/08/26
>>
>>
>> CommonDreams.org <http://www.commondreams.org/>
>> August 26, 2010
>> The Next 500 Years
>>
>> by Robert C. Koehler
>>
>> The participants in this unique dialogue may have been doing no less than
>> opening the window on the next 500 years.
>>
>> As scary and stupefying as our world sometimes seems, we are at a place of
>> enormous potential right now -- a transition point of unprecedented
>> understanding among cultures and peoples and worldviews. Pushing that
>> understanding, creating, in the words of the late physicist David Bohm, a
>> milieu of "participatory consciousness" among radically diverse thinkers, is
>> the idea behind the Language of Spirit Conference, sponsored by the SEED
>> Graduate Institute, which has been held in Albuquerque every year since
>> 1999.
>>
>> Last week I attended the 12th annual Language of Spirit Conference, which
>> brought together Western scientists and scholars and Native North American
>> and Australian scientists, philosophers and storytellers, not to argue, but
>> to grope for commonality at the far reaches of their belief systems. The
>> original dialogues, convened by Bohm and Leroy Little Bear (former director
>> of Native Studies at Harvard) in Kalamazoo, Mich., in 1992, came about
>> because Little Bear, who was well-versed in the developments of quantum
>> physics, realized that Western science had reached the end of linear thought
>> and finally got it: The universe is a living, conscious, interconnected
>> organism.
>>
>> This is how the world's indigenous people see things. They always have.
>> Reverently tied to place, they have been the natural world's caretakers for
>> thousands of years. They are *of* the world, living not just sustainably
>> but in intimate relationship with their sacred piece of Planet Earth.
>>
>> "We are a people who never made singing or dancing unrespected ways of
>> knowing," said Pat McCabe, a Navajo writer and scholar who also goes by the
>> name Woman Stands Shining. "All of the five-fingered ways of knowing
>> remained open to us."
>>
>> And now . . . now . . . 500 years after Western conquistadors subdued and
>> divided the planet, devastating indigenous people on every continent and,
>> while they were at it, pushing the natural world to the brink of
>> eco-collapse, we are turning -- some of us -- to the wisdom of connectedness
>> that has been ours for the asking all along.
>>
>> This isn't easy or simple. Our disconnect from one another, from ourselves
>> and from the natural world is embedded in the Western languages, which break
>> the world into millions of discrete, manipulable pieces, called nouns ("My
>> name is Matthew. I'm a nounaholic," cried linguist Matthew Bronson).
>> Westerners control reality through language, but they don't evoke it.
>> Indigenous languages are, as I am slowly coming to understand them,
>> verb-based, intrinsically linking speaker and object in a flow of motion
>> that cannot be linguistically sliced and diced.
>>
>> Just as I began writing this column, the New Yorker arrived in the mail.
>> On the cover of the Aug. 30 issue is a drawing of a middle-aged white guy
>> sitting on a beach chair at the edge of the ocean, smugly pointing a TV
>> remote at it -- perfectly illustrating the disconnected, control-fixated
>> Westerner the Language of Spirit Conference was addressing . . . the one who
>> has done so much harm.
>>
>> With eerie synchronicity, the water on the New Yorker cover flows back to
>> the dialogue. Speaking about the BP oil spill, SEED founder Glenn Aparicio
>> Parry noted in amazement, "The mainstream world believes that water is dead
>> -- yet we're 70 percent water."
>>
>> "The assumption of the laws (of science)," said biophysicist Beverly
>> Rubik, "is that we're a non-living universe. We ought to start over. We have
>> a science that starts with deadness. It's time to revision science -- in a
>> living universe."
>>
>> These words begin to get at the vibration of the conference -- this
>> exercise in participatory consciousness -- which struck at the core of
>> something vital. The ostensible subject of the 12th Language of Spirit
>> dialogue was time. The speakers dismantled linear time, the kind that moves
>> in a straight line and pulls us along on its track. (In the U.S., time
>> wasn't standardized till 1886, when the railroads demanded it.) Nonlinear
>> time -- the timelessness of dreaming, reverence, prayer and awe -- filled
>> the room, and I could feel the living universe pulse. It pulsed with love.
>>
>> "The eagle is more valuable to you alive" than as merely a source of
>> feathers, said Chickasaw poet Linda Hogan. "The sacred thing is the life
>> force."
>>
>> It also pulsed with anger. Writer M.J. Zimmerman, speaking about SEED
>> spiritual mentor Leon Secatero, who died in 2008, said: "Grandfather Leon
>> always talked about getting ready for the next 500 years. We're in a
>> transition point. The anger of colonization should not be brought into the
>> next 500 years.
>>
>> "Hurt people hurt people," she added. "Europeans have moved into every
>> part of this planet and hurt people." She offered the plea that we in the
>> disconnected West find our own roots, dig "way back into our own traumatic
>> history" and begin to heal our brokenness.
>>
>> And for the first time in my life I found myself groping in the darkness
>> of my own past, beyond a few generations of known ancestors and beyond my
>> identity as an American, toward an ancient tribal commonality that has
>> fallen out of history, and I felt a slow give in the assumptions of my life.
>>
>> "Everyone is indigenous," said Jill Milroy, dean of the School of
>> Indigenous Studies at the University of Western Australia. Perhaps knowing
>> this is the first step in envisioning the next 500 years.
>>
>> © 2010 Tribune Media Services, Inc.
>>
>> *Robert Koehler is an award-winning, Chicago-based journalist and
>> nationally syndicated writer. You can respond to this column at
>> [email protected] or visit his Web site at commonwonders.com.)*
>>
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