Except the DSM definition went much farther than ordinary human frailty.
Incidentally, Keith, the "youngest and most [conventionally] beautiful
woman" is not necessarily the most gratifying -- either long term or
immediately.

On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 9:38 PM, Keith Hudson
<[email protected]>wrote:

>  I don't think that narcissism (or egotism, vanity, conceit, selfishness)
> are socially deviant. They are part and parcel of human nature. We may be
> social mammals but we are also individuals underneath. A male, given the
> opportunity will have sex with the youngest and most beautiful woman he can
> find. A woman, looking for a parental partner will choose the most
> economically secure man she can conveniently find. Neither gives a great
> deal of thought to the longer tomorrow, only to their immediate needs.
>
> Narcissism , egotism, vanity, conceit, selfishness, among other "sins" were
> abstractions used as control devices by male religion organizers, not to
> mention the very real sufferings they've imposed on others throughout
> history.
>
> Keith
>
>
>
> At 17:31 09/01/2011 -0800, Mike Gurstein wrote:
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]<[email protected]>]
> On Behalf Of marc garrett
> Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2011 2:36 PM
> To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity
> Subject: [NetBehaviour] Narcissism normalised.
>
>
> Narcissism normalised.
>
> "Recently a NYTimes (http://is.gd/i3Cj9) article announced that
> narcissism is being deleted from the tomb for psychiatric disorders.
> Narcissism will not appear in the fifth edition of the Diagnostic and
> Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (due out in 2013, and known as
> DSM-5). What happens when what was once morally objectionable behaviour
> ( egotism, vanity, conceit, selfishness) is no longer a 'legitimate'
> social deviance? Is narcissism now so deeply embedded in the collective
> psyche that it is now 'normal'? Is this the ultimate end of the
> neo-liberal exhalation of the individual, celebrity culture, a century's
> worth of advertising and the corporatisation of everyday life?"
> http://ecolabs.posterous.com/narcissism-normalized
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