At 22:37 09/01/2011 -0800, Darryl wrote:
Unless the male's deviant (vanity centric, conceited, selfish) ego
requires the power over feeling of taking the most convenient beautiful,
younger woman very often against her will (or desire). NOTE: these
problems move through both sexes (just work the opposites through your mind).
Darryl
Yes, it can be nasty when power obtrudes. This is why rape is so abhorrent
(but all too frequent unfortunately). And, yes, it can work the other way
round, too. Any beautiful girl with a modicum of intelligence, who plays
her social cards carefully, and who has a desire to, can make her way into
almost every level of male society. If that's not power, I don't know what
is! Another thing I've noticed throughout life is that although violent
husbands can do a great deal of damage to both wives and children, violent
mothers develop more deeply disturbed children with longer lasting
problems. As far as I know this has never been scientifically investigated,
though it probably will be one day. On the other hand, I've also noticed
that very successful children (particularly males) tend to come from
families where the wife wore the trousers. Also, outstandingly gifted and
successful females seem to come from families with outstanding fathers.
Keith
On 1/9/2011 9:52 PM, Sandwichman wrote:
Except the DSM definition went much farther than ordinary human frailty.
Incidentally, Keith, the "youngest and most [conventionally] beautiful
woman" is not necessarily the most gratifying -- either long term or
immediately.
On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 9:38 PM, Keith Hudson
<<mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]> wrote:
I don't think that narcissism (or egotism, vanity, conceit, selfishness)
are socially deviant. They are part and parcel of human nature. We may be
social mammals but we are also individuals underneath. A male, given the
opportunity will have sex with the youngest and most beautiful woman he
can find. A woman, looking for a parental partner will choose the most
economically secure man she can conveniently find. Neither gives a great
deal of thought to the longer tomorrow, only to their immediate needs.
Narcissism , egotism, vanity, conceit, selfishness, among other "sins"
were abstractions used as control devices by male religion organizers,
not to mention the very real sufferings they've imposed on others
throughout history.
Keith
At 17:31 09/01/2011 -0800, Mike Gurstein wrote:
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Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2011 2:36 PM
To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity
Subject: [NetBehaviour] Narcissism normalised.
Narcissism normalised.
"Recently a NYTimes (<http://is.gd/i3Cj9>http://is.gd/i3Cj9) article
announced that
narcissism is being deleted from the tomb for psychiatric disorders.
Narcissism will not appear in the fifth edition of the Diagnostic and
Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (due out in 2013, and known as
DSM-5). What happens when what was once morally objectionable behaviour
( egotism, vanity, conceit, selfishness) is no longer a 'legitimate'
social deviance? Is narcissism now so deeply embedded in the collective
psyche that it is now 'normal'? Is this the ultimate end of the
neo-liberal exhalation of the individual, celebrity culture, a century's
worth of advertising and the corporatisation of everyday life?"
<http://ecolabs.posterous.com/narcissism-normalized>http://ecolabs.posterous.com/narcissism-normalized
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