Unless the male's /deviant (vanity centric, conceited, selfish)//ego/ requires the *power over* feeling of /taking /the /most convenient beautiful, younger/ woman very often against her will (or desire). NOTE: these problems move through both sexes (just work the opposites through your mind).

Darryl



On 1/9/2011 9:52 PM, Sandwichman wrote:
Except the DSM definition went much farther than ordinary human frailty. Incidentally, Keith, the "youngest and most [conventionally] beautiful woman" is not necessarily the most gratifying -- either long term or immediately.

On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 9:38 PM, Keith Hudson <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    I don't think that narcissism (or egotism, vanity, conceit,
    selfishness) are socially deviant. They are part and parcel of
    human nature. We may be social mammals but we are also individuals
    underneath. A male, given the opportunity will have sex with the
    youngest and most beautiful woman he can find. A woman, looking
    for a parental partner will choose the most economically secure
    man she can conveniently find. Neither gives a great deal of
    thought to the longer tomorrow, only to their immediate needs.

    Narcissism , egotism, vanity, conceit, selfishness, among other
    "sins" were abstractions used as control devices by male religion
    organizers, not to mention the very real sufferings they've
    imposed on others throughout history.

    Keith



    At 17:31 09/01/2011 -0800, Mike Gurstein wrote:

    -----Original Message-----
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    [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of marc
    garrett
    Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2011 2:36 PM
    To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity
    Subject: [NetBehaviour] Narcissism normalised.


    Narcissism normalised.

    "Recently a NYTimes (http://is.gd/i3Cj9) article announced that
    narcissism is being deleted from the tomb for psychiatric disorders.
    Narcissism will not appear in the fifth edition of the Diagnostic
    and
    Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (due out in 2013, and
    known as
    DSM-5). What happens when what was once morally objectionable
    behaviour
    ( egotism, vanity, conceit, selfishness) is no longer a 'legitimate'
    social deviance? Is narcissism now so deeply embedded in the
    collective
    psyche that it is now 'normal'? Is this the ultimate end of the
    neo-liberal exhalation of the individual, celebrity culture, a
    century's
    worth of advertising and the corporatisation of everyday life?"
    http://ecolabs.posterous.com/narcissism-normalized
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