Keith I think that future historians will examine the relationship between
Hillary Clinton on the board of Walmart,  Bill Clinton  as ex-governor of
Arkansas (headquarters for Walmart) and Pres. Clinton granting China most
favoured nation status allowing Walmart to access a low cost source of
product.  This all happened when Walmart's profits were slipping and they
had to do something about the bottom line.  

 

(and I suppose we can recall the money from China that went to support Bill
Clinton's campaign for president, second time as I recall)

 

http://gopcapitalist.tripod.com/clinton-scandals.html#Chinese

 

 

arthur

 

From: Keith Hudson [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 11:38 AM
To: RE-DESIGNING WORK, INCOME DISTRIBUTION, , EDUCATION; Arthur Cordell
Subject: RE: [Futurework] The approaching sanity

 

Arthur,

At 14:21 13/09/2011, you wrote:



Interesting.  When the history of this time is written we may see how cheap
exports from China to US (and elsewhere) led to China holding US dollars
which were later used for a variety of things including buying up assets
everywhere and making inroads into the EU by buying Italian paper.  The
Walmartization of America seems to have led to a strange and unintended
outcome.


Yes indeed. The question that future historians will ask is:  If America had
not allowed the dollar to be overprinted from 1971 and onwards (when Nixon
de-linked the dollar from gold) then what would China have done? In my view,
because of the awful blunders of Mao Zedong's Great Leap Forward in the
'50s, and the craziness of the Cultural Revolution in the '60s, Deng
Xiaoping would still have taken power and would have still instituted total
reforms of the administration and, even more importantly, a total re-cast of
its economy from mostly heavy industry to a more balanced one as in the
West. But China's new economy would not have taken off at anywhere near the
same speed if oodles of cheap Eurodollars and Asiandollars had not already
accumulated and were ready to pile into China via American corporations and
huge Chinese ex-pat businesses in Hong Kong and elsewhere in SE Asia. Cheap
Chinese labour certainly helped (and was obviously a great attraction to all
these incoming businesses) but as far as sheer quantity of production is
concerned, and the types of goods made, cheap labour was nowhere near as
important to the Chinese economy than the modern industrial methods and the
(tremendously important) marketing know-how that the incomers brought with
them. Without the incomers and their dollars and expertise, the Chinese
export industries would have been mainly home-grown and would have stayed
that way for years, perhaps decades, to come. They would not have been
kick-started into modernity. Chinese exports would have resumed with the
same sorts of products that they had previously been exporting in the 18th
and 19th centuries (that is, before war ravaged both Europe and China in the
20th century) -- such as hand-painted porcelain, silk fabrics, hand- made
wooden toys and furniture and the like. Of course, China would still have
developed from the 1980s and onwards but at nowhere near the speed that it
actually did. Furthermore, America (and Europe) would still have retained a
considerable part of its former consumer goods industries.

America's dollar-printing policy of the last four decades, and the more
recent growth of credit on top of it by its rampant investment banks, must
take the major blame for China's eruption into the modern world and
America's present predicament.

Keith 




 From: [email protected] [
mailto:[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]> ] On Behalf Of Keith Hudson
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 5:26 AM
To: RE-DESIGNING WORK, INCOME DISTRIBUTION, , EDUCATION
Subject: [Futurework] The approaching sanity
 
Some credence has been given to my last paragraph of yesterday piece by the
news late yesterday that Italy's finance minister Tremonti appealed to
China's Investment Corporation last week to buy the next wave of Italy's
debt due on 15 September. The news apparently rallied Wall Street share
prices last night.

This oughtn't really to be a surprise. Italy's recent attempt at an
austerity plan is even more likely to cause country-wide strikes and a
collapse of its government than the present predicament in Greece. No-one
knows the outcome of the discussions. Furthermore, there's unlikely to be
any sort of public disclosure at any time.  More than likely, though, the
fragility of the Eurozone is now so extreme that some deep understanding
will have to be reached, and China will have to make some very important
decisions. From China's point of view, the Eurozone can't be allowed to
collapse if it's all possible. The Eurozone is not only an important source
of import goods (high grade machine tools, engineering know-how and luxury
cars, etc mainly from Germany), but the Euro itself is an important currency
ally against the ever-cheapening American dollar.

Also, if the Eurozone collapses, and many European banks are devastated,
then the effect on American banks (holding substantial European liabilities)
is such that America would likely plunge instantly into a deep depression.
China wouldn't want that to happen.  It's one thing for America to slide
slowly into recession, as it is patently doing right now, but it's quite
another if America unleashes yet more quantitative easing and devalues the
dollar at an even faster rate.  From China's point of view, America and the
Eurozone must both survive somehow for as long as possible until both accept
the necessity of a world-wide stable trading currency which China has been
calling for for years. 

Of the two problematiques, America is by far the more intransigent for
psychological reasons. Just as the opinion-setters of England (politicians,
civil servants and the media) experienced in the 1930s in trying to adjust
to its governmental debt and the demise of the British Empire (and the
necessity of constantly devaluing the pound), so America is experiencing the
same today. America was probably at its peak of power in the 1960s at the
time of taking on the communists in Vietnam -- and losing -- and it's been
downhill all the way since then despite its still numerous military bases in
many countries.  Its last big episode of invading Iraq, but now having to
leave the country with even more problems than it had before (with Sunni
terrorism of Shias running amok and without, as yet, America getting a drop
of oil from Iraq's massive undeveloped oilfields in the north), together
with America's increasing humiliation in Afghanistan by the Taliban, all
this eloquently demonstrates that America must now adopt a more humble role
in the scheme of things just as England had to (most of its intelligentsia
anyway).

If America continues with its dollar-printing strategy, thus maintaining
prime-mover advantage in cheapening its exports and subsequently throwing
increasing inflationary strains on China and the rest of the emerging world,
then it will be punished, just as England was. It won't be China that will
do the punishing. It will be the whole world market through the agency of
scores of central banks around the world, mainly of the emergent countries,
which are now buying gold as their ultimate safe foreign exchange reserve.
Since 1999, this increasing necessity has already produced as smooth an
accelerating price curve as any scientist could wish to see from an
experiment.

The price rise is due to go vertical by this time next year. Before then, at
levels of gold prices that will become approachably convenient to one
country after another, governments will decide to back their currencies by
the amount of gold in their central banks. And here the same prime-mover
advantage will obtain. Those countries who are the earliest to do so might
well suffer a brief hiatus of trade while their trading partners adjust but
will very quickly benefit while the free market price of gold continues to
rise. There won't be a panic crash in the gold price. There will be a more
or less panic flattening out. There will be a reversion to the illogical,
but yet status-driven, centuries-old obsession with gold that will once
again stabilize our financial systems and prevent money inflation for good
and all (just as happened in England all through the 19th century).

But just a final word to those steady-staters who, like me, think that the
advanced countries are already becoming locked into a particular urban-dense
way of life that will last for a very long while (while some of the other
countries -- but by no means all -- catch up), a non-inflationary world
currency doesn't mean stultification. Man's frontal lobes are too curious
for that. We will always be making discoveries and will always want to make
more. There's no reason why, in a world in which the mass of everything we
need by way of consumer goods will be made, freighted and sold by automated
methods, we should not also gradually carry out infrastructure changes that
will lead to a sustainable economic future that will be friendly to nature
and the amazingly fascinating world it displays about us.

Keith


Keith Hudson, Saltford, England http://allisstatus.wordpress.com/2012/08/
  

Keith Hudson, Saltford, England http://allisstatus.wordpress.com/2012/08/
  

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