Tom,
 
Why be cynical about something that is in large part a good news story...
 
There is so much quite legitimate bad news and bad judgement and bad faith
around that any glimmer of light even if flawed, is worth cherishing IMHO.
 
M

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[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Tom Walker
Sent: Friday, April 20, 2012 12:14 PM
To: RE-DESIGNING WORK, INCOME DISTRIBUTION,EDUCATION
Subject: Re: [Futurework] Being Green Then and Now


By the way, what do people think of "Gross National Schadenfreude" as a
counterweight to the nauseatingly coy Gross National Happiness panacea with
their fairytale Bhutanese king? Where could OUR Bhutan be? Iceland?


On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 8:09 AM, Tom Walker <[email protected]> wrote:


Just to be absolutely unambiguous, I'm as cynical as anyone about the
sincerity of the greenwashing industry -- "if you can fake sincerity, you've
got it made". My stuck-in-the-head quote these days is Orwell's "All
left-wing parties in the highly industrialized countries are at bottom a
sham, because they make it their business to fight against something which
they do not really wish to destroy." But it doesn't follow that all
right-wing parties are therefore NOT a sham.

I think one of the functions of schadenfreude is to reward and reinforce
cognitive dissonance. The ironic chuckle of "Being green then and now" is at
bottom a schadenfreude experience, which, in true cognitive dissonance
style, "absolves" the chuckler of his or her peccadilloes. 


On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 7:54 AM, Tom Walker <[email protected]> wrote:


Would you have in mind something along the lines of the aptly-named "Titanic
Eco-Spa"? Green buildings, spring water and towels and a "spa traveler
award". I kid you not. 


On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 7:39 AM, Arthur Cordell <[email protected]>
wrote:


Would also add to the cute message that oh so many greenies are recycling
this and that and then without a thought jump on a jet to go off to this or
that conference or vacation spot without a thought as to what these and a
host of other personal activities are doing that run counter to the religion
of being green.

arthur


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Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2012 10:49 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [Futurework] Re: Being Green Then and Now


Tom Walker wrote:

> Cute but false and misleading.
> [snip]
> "Cute" bullshit is still bullshit.

Well, yeah.  But not any greater or more tedious bullshit than many of the
putatively "green" odds & sods that we're expected (or forced) to embrace
today, many of which (IMHO) are ways of externalizing some large entity's
cost onto the consumer or create a profit ex novo.

Yes, the vast volumes of toxics and particulates fired up smokestacks, down
drains and off tailings dumps before regulation outweigh, in global effect,
plastic bags or gas lawn mowers.  The point of the "cute" piece was to
ridicule self-righteous Greenness among those who adopt and evangelize the
Green Consumer Catechism without critical thought or meaningful knowledge.

Or so I understood it.


- Mike

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