Why be cynical? The long answer is in my message from last week, "What's
the Mythology For, Anyway?"

The short answer is we are contending with two competing aphorisms here:
"not letting perfection be the enemy of the good" and "bad money driving
out good". What I am cynical about is the Music Man effect. Every good
cause sprouts hucksters like dandelions and the hucksterism soon becomes
the only show on the bill. The romantic/triumphant ending of the Music Man,
recall, was fiction.


On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 8:36 AM, michael gurstein <[email protected]>wrote:

> **
> Tom,
>
> Why be cynical about something that is in large part a good news story...
>
> There is so much quite legitimate bad news and bad judgement and bad faith
> around that any glimmer of light even if flawed, is worth cherishing IMHO.
>
> M
>
>  -----Original Message-----
> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:
> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Tom Walker
> *Sent:* Friday, April 20, 2012 12:14 PM
> *To:* RE-DESIGNING WORK, INCOME DISTRIBUTION,EDUCATION
> *Subject:* Re: [Futurework] Being Green Then and Now
>
> By the way, what do people think of "Gross National Schadenfreude" as a
> counterweight to the nauseatingly coy Gross National Happiness panacea with
> their fairytale Bhutanese king? Where could OUR Bhutan be? Iceland?
>
> On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 8:09 AM, Tom Walker <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Just to be absolutely unambiguous, I'm as cynical as anyone about the
>> sincerity of the greenwashing industry -- "if you can fake sincerity,
>> you've got it made". My stuck-in-the-head quote these days is Orwell's "All
>> left-wing parties in the highly industrialized countries are at bottom a
>> sham, because they make it their business to fight against something which
>> they do not really wish to destroy." But it doesn't follow that all
>> right-wing parties are therefore NOT a sham.
>>
>> I think one of the functions of schadenfreude is to reward and reinforce
>> cognitive dissonance. The ironic chuckle of "Being green then and now" is
>> at bottom a schadenfreude experience, which, in true cognitive dissonance
>> style, "absolves" the chuckler of his or her peccadilloes.
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 7:54 AM, Tom Walker <[email protected]>wrote:
>>
>>> Would you have in mind something along the lines of the aptly-named
>>> "Titanic Eco-Spa"? Green buildings, spring water and towels and a "spa
>>> traveler award". I kid you not.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 7:39 AM, Arthur Cordell 
>>> <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Would also add to the cute message that oh so many greenies are
>>>> recycling
>>>> this and that and then without a thought jump on a jet to go off to
>>>> this or
>>>> that conference or vacation spot without a thought as to what these and
>>>> a
>>>> host of other personal activities are doing that run counter to the
>>>> religion
>>>> of being green.
>>>>
>>>> arthur
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: [email protected]
>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mike
>>>> Spencer
>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2012 10:49 PM
>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>> Subject: [Futurework] Re: Being Green Then and Now
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Tom Walker wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > Cute but false and misleading.
>>>> > [snip]
>>>> > "Cute" bullshit is still bullshit.
>>>>
>>>> Well, yeah.  But not any greater or more tedious bullshit than many of
>>>> the
>>>> putatively "green" odds & sods that we're expected (or forced) to
>>>> embrace
>>>> today, many of which (IMHO) are ways of externalizing some large
>>>> entity's
>>>> cost onto the consumer or create a profit ex novo.
>>>>
>>>> Yes, the vast volumes of toxics and particulates fired up smokestacks,
>>>> down
>>>> drains and off tailings dumps before regulation outweigh, in global
>>>> effect,
>>>> plastic bags or gas lawn mowers.  The point of the "cute" piece was to
>>>> ridicule self-righteous Greenness among those who adopt and evangelize
>>>> the
>>>> Green Consumer Catechism without critical thought or meaningful
>>>> knowledge.
>>>>
>>>> Or so I understood it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> - Mike
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Michael Spencer                  Nova Scotia, Canada       .~.
>>>>                                                           /V\
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>>>> http://home.tallships.ca/mspencer/                        ^^-^^
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>>>
>>> Tom Walker (Sandwichman)
>>>
>>
>>
>>
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