No Keith,

That is the intricacies of Democrat politics.   That IS different.    The
Democratic left must include the academics and they certainly are prolific
both in writing and thinking things through.    They include sociologists,
anthropologists, scientists (non-Creationist types with the exception of the
scientists who separate their politics from their science rather like
Catholic physicists),  used to be economists but the Christian right
abandoned Jesus and went for an another Jew,  Milton Friedman (See Black
Baptist Minister member of Congress Julius Caesar Watts) and political
theorists.

I don't see the problem as one of being able to "write and think" at all.
You and I have made our business in something other than this.    Is it
surprising that we have learned to see the opposite side of what we grew up
believing?   God bless the Internet for old cranks like ourselves.

Instead I see it as one of being able to write for today's Newspapers which
they admit to being on a fifth grade level.   If I write like the University
taught me which includes understanding theology at least on the simplicity
of Karl Barth then I am not understood most of the time.   Barth admitted to
paradoxical reality while non-linear thought admits to a 360 degree
non-linear look at issues.   i.e. to describe what is really going on in
this government you have to look beyond the linear logicality and into the
culture and history on a level too specific for most audiences.

Even something as simple as what I wrote you is way too "far out" for
today's pundits.    They cannot think in patterns but only in simple "bites"
that represent about 6 seconds of thought.   The average 12 year old "tests"
at 12 seconds of concentration.    In that world analysis is not an option.
History is degraded and yesterday is irrelevant to the moment unless it is
found in a book, preferably the Bible or one you can use like the Bible.
Maybe it is really the mentality of the auto shop where you must do
everything "by the manual."     The kind of thinking that ruined Steinway
pianos for a generation and only recently brought them back from the Teflon
disaster.     That is not what the Ivory Tower teaches.

As I said, in that world complexity simply means "levels of inability."
That, however, is not the world of the Democrats.   Their connection to
publishing and academia, including today's scientific studies of complexity.
It makes them able to work in a very verbally dense medium.    You would not
have had any trouble getting the "Clintonites" to understand and answer what
you have said.    What is always confusing about these "dudes" is that

1. they are not manipulatible by ordinary means,
2.  as Dick Morris pointed out about Clinton, his model was not a straight
path but more resembled "tacking" in sailing or switchbacks in the path up a
mountain, and
3.  again as Morris (a Republican) pointed out, that "hearing",
"understanding" and "agreeing" did not mean that these "New Democrats" would
do what you wanted.
4. It meant that their relationship to time was totally different from the
more linear and I believe more stupid "Republican Model" which collapses
time.    Can anyone believe that we have only had two years of Bush?
5. Clinton worked slowly after he made the initial mistake on Health Care
and then realized that he could do nothing about it.   (Sailing into a
Hurricane with nothing but sails for power.)
6. Clinton dropped a lot of bombs but never got the credit here for being
"warlike."     He was a Democrat and Democrats only do it to "wag the dog."
Republicans "mean it."    He also did as much as Bush, but quietly, and to
the same lack of effect on Terrorism.     With Clinton the Army was a
"Peacekeeper" while with Bush they are "Warriors."      Do you remember
those stupid uniforms that cost so much for the White House guards?
Nixon wanted "warriors" in front of the White House like the Queen had.
The public laughed and they disappeared.

The old line Republicans that I studied with have little in common with
these former Dixiecrat Republican Warriors today.    Actually the old ones
were personally more fierce but not nationally frightening.    Today's
Republicans are crazy with their internal conflicts of interest from
business to race while the Democrats are more and more separated from the
labor base that doesn't have the intellectual training nor stamina to hear
what they are saying.

That base is  abandoned by the Republican wealth but also abandoned by the
Democrat "Ivory Tower."    Their only help is "counseling" and that comes
from the church on one hand and the secular business, therapy and  12 step
programs on the other.   What JC used the Coliseum for in another day.   It
is a confused time with very little consistency of culture.   I'm afraid
more so  than any of the times when the Soviets and America only provided
two buttons to push for destruction.    It seems no one believes in
Democracy or the ability to achieve unity beyond national human sacrifices
like 9/11.

Ray Evans Harrell


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From: "Keith Hudson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Ray Evans Harrell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Monday, September 02, 2002 3:35 PM
Subject: Senile decay (was Re: Walking on eggshells


> Ray,
>
> Ah well . .  there we are. Although my economic views are probably close
to
> those of fairly right-wing Republicans -- and certainly to the right of
the
> present Tory party in England -- if I were American it's likely that I
> would vote for them as often as I've voted Tory. That is, never.
>
> Mind you, until I joined Futurework, I was a fairly middle-of-the-road
> leftie-type liberal, reader of The Guardian and all that. Equivalent to
> your Democrats I suppose. But then, having had to think things through
and,
> moreoever write about them, it's become quite educative. What I find
> disconcerting about lefties -- now that I'm an ex-, that is  -- is that
> they're very prolific at criticism, but never quite seem to be able to
> construct their own case.
>
> But there we are . . . you needn't take much notice . . . I'm probably
> going senile anyway.
>
> Keith
>
>
> At 13:12 02/09/02 -0400, you wrote:
> >Keith,
> >
> >You are just beginning to discover the intricacies of Republican
Politics.
> >If you think this is something, you should have been in Washington during
> >the Nixon era.   Republicans like war.    But they have to have the
country
> >behind them for them to enjoy it.    They have been angry at the
Democrats
> >for seventy years about:
> >
> >1. The Democrats stopping the Depression by WW II.
> >
> >2.   Pre-empting them on Civil Rights although some Republicans walked
with
> >the Democrats in the Marches, Civil Rights was largely a Democrat affair
in
> >the sixties even though the  Republican party had a deep history of civil
> >rights from the Civil War forward.   However they lost it in the early
> >sixties.
> >
> >3. They absorbed the most racist arm of the Democrat party (Dixiecrats)
left
> >the Democrats during the Civil Rights marches and joined the Republicans
> >with Nixon.    They also took the hit on Martin Luther King's
assignation.
> >
> >4. The disgrace of  Watergate,
> >
> >5.  Iran-Contra, even though an old Republican (Judge Walsh) was the most
> >damning on the California and Southern branch of the Party.   Remember
that
> >the Contras were funded by very suspect drug money with the drugs
eventually
> >reaching the streets of the Black ghetto in LA.  (Not many of those old
> >'Walsh' Republicans left, remember the elder Bush was not one, he was a
CIA
> >spook who also loved war, as was the editor of the National Review
William
> >Buckley.    Most of these folks long for the Cold War and the duality of
> >"us vs. them."    They don't do well with complexity but they are into
> >covert special operations.   It seems clear today that the Republicans
are
> >the first party to market a President who was exhibiting the first signs
of
> >Alzheimer's.    As proof of this, they use it as an excuse for him coming
> >out FOR the National Endowment of the Arts in the last two years of his
> >administration.   (This mirrored the Democrat fiasco with Wilson during
the
> >old issue of the League of Nations when his wife and cabal ran the
country
> >into the ground.)
> >
> >6.  The sex scandals that deposed the liberal wing of the Republican
> >Congress
> >
> >7.  Bill Clinton's seeming ability to absorb all of their worst traits
and
> >still function through the power of his education and intelligence.
> >
> >8.  Ending up on the opposite side of the last election from what they
> >believed.    They were convinced that Bush would win the popular vote and
> >lose in the electoral college.    Chris Matthews wrote in one of the
> >Republican Jewish rags what the "game plan" was.   It was exactly the
same
> >as Gore eventually used.    They planned to make Gore suspect for this
four
> >years and to subvert the economy through powerful partisanship developed
> >through the Cable and Radio Media.    They haven't quite caught their
pace
> >since they ended up on the reverse side with a minority elected
President.
> >
> >So why wouldn't they be a bit confused.   I would say that they have a
> >number of un-resolved issues that pollutes their action today as they
> >continually see the present through the dark vision of these actions in
the
> >past.
> >
> >Ray Evans Harrell
>
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