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From: "William B Ward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, September 02, 2002 1:55 PM
Subject: Re: An Uncertain Presidency An Uncertain Time (was an Uncertain
Britain)


> Lawry,
>
> You can't treat a crook honorably. Gore's mistake was that he failed to
> distance himself early and sincerely from Clinton.
>
> Bill Ward


Nonsense, if any one of us had fifty million dollars spent on entrapment we
would all fail.   I usually agree with you but your statement makes no sense
to me whatever having lived there and worked in the White House.   I've
worked in every situation other than a metal factory and there is not a
single soul that would escape such scrutiny.    I would venture that IF
there is one, he or she is devoid of initiative and would consider
imagination a mortal curse.

What you got Clinton for would have been laughed off in the past as
civilized and gentlemanly and Ken Starr would have been considered the
religious lying fanatic that he is.    Read his church dogma and then ask
yourself how he could send his beloved children to an Ivy League school
believing that horse doo doo.    Princeton would be like sending them to
live in the wealthiest red light district in the city.   Was he supposed to
convert them or was he just self-serving and hypocritical?    Remember MDs
used to masterbate women as relief for hysteria.   That is the mentality
that is created from the mind of a Ken Starr.

Opera makes you look at lots of different cultural alternatives.    The
Italians are more civilized on this.    They give the concubines of their
leaders businesses and help them make a living for the rest of their lives.
Only this nutty puritanical Judeo-Christian culture makes sex a sin and
lying about it a felony and then elects an alcoholic who lies about his
drugs and women, serves alcohol in the White House when his religion forbids
it and makes him a hero of the alleged religious right wing.   No wonder we
are going into another ritual of human sacrifice in Iraq.    Raising the
speed limit ten miles an hour and murdering the young and retarded in prison
didn't provide enough respite for all of those new babies born as a result
of making abortion a sin.    Well it is all a sin in that nutty system.
But crook?   No Nixon was a crook, Clinton was a human being with the crazy
guilts of his religion but the intelligence to continue to be a half way
decent President in spite of them.  I usually agree with you but you got me
on this one.

Ray Evans Harrell



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