Karen,

Of course we will perform a "clean military strike".

The war will be over by Christmas and the boys will be coming home.

At least, that's what they said in August, 1914.

Harry
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Karen wrote:

>I agree with you, Ed, that the chances of a clean military surgical strike 
>are immature and there will be a huge and sustained backlash if victory is 
>not quick and followed by key changes in the region.  From what I ve read 
>about him, forget dyslexia vs dysphasia, he has a short term attention 
>span that is tied more to the business bottom line than the development of 
>long term projects and that is exactly what scares our allies.
>
>Iraq is not Kosovo, it is not a conglomeration of failing post-communist 
>states, though there are some similarities.  Eastern Europe is not teeming 
>in fundamentalist rants against the Great Satan.  They want to join the 
>Great Satan in economic recovery and expanded personal opportunities. 
>While there are very good arguments for regime change in the Middle East, 
>they have not been delivered by Bush-Cheney-Rumsfeld in a way that makes 
>it clear and unequivocal; what we know of their plans seem obtuse and 
>haphazard, and there has been no visionary voice.  Bush is too encumbered 
>by his Hamlet baggage to have the pure motives of a mythical hero and 
>Americans are reluctant to mobilize without a righteous cause.  I don t 
>think we are ready to become Darth Vader when we still think of ourselves 
>as Luke Skywalker.
>
>A cynical aside: There has been so much attention paid to the widows and 
>survivor families of the 9/11 attacks and such a sea change in popular 
>culture about death and grief (largely due to the school shootings) that I 
>speculate an aversion to body bags is not the worst claim to notoriety we 
>might have in the annals of history.  We lost 300,000 in WW2, I believe, 
>and there was not this glorifying culture of death about it, but following 
>on the tremendous commercial success of The Greatest Generation (which is 
>deserving) and its offspring, there may be media forces at work that are 
>manipulating popular sentiment contrary to recent assumptions.
>
>Furthermore, I don t buy this Us vs Them that is solely based on the 
>oft-mentioned reasoning that they hate us because we stand for liberty .
>
>Perhaps I ve learned too much listening to panel discussions and 
>interviews with voices from the Middle East on Lehrer Newshour, but IMHO 
>it s foolish to categorize the vague terrorist enemy as haters of liberty 
>the terrorists are very specific even in their myopic bellicose 
>rantings.   Zakaria makes a good case in his Bin Laden s Bad Bet piece 
>that fundamentalism is undercut, at least as political powers, because 
>they cannot have political power as long as they cannot say their own name 
>out loud as international outlaws, and the street furor will die down as 
>the mullahs are silenced.  That s the key here, isn t it?  Making sure we 
>don t give the mullahs another great opportunity to reignite the flames.
>
>ED wrote:  In general, Sir Michael Howard notwithstanding, there is no 
>single specific adversary.  There are millions and perhaps potentially 
>billions of them.  My fear about what Bush may be unleashing is something 
>that will fester for centuries.  In a previous posting, I suggested that 
>the US attack on Iraq will begin an endless chain of body bags.  Someone 
>shot me down by saying no, no, no, the Americans will very quickly beat up 
>on Husain.  I agree, but that will only be the first step in something 
>that will go one for a very long time.
>
>By the way, Time magazine has a good point-counterpoint dialogue in its 
>Sept. 11 issue, between Andrew Sullivan and Michael Elliot about if 
>America has really changed and then they ve also posted commentary by 
>author Philip Bobbitt, who seems to have been very influential within the 
>Bush Administration, titled Get Ready for the Next Long War.   Sen. McCain 
>also writes that we have to fight for democracy everywhere.   Is his the 
>visionary voice?  Bush has not asked us to sacrifice for a worthy goal 
>(yet), but McCain seems to relish his role of leading where others don t 
>yet want to go.  Will Bush meet that challenge?
>
>Karen



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