"Just discovered"? What assumptions you make, Ray. > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ray Evans > Harrell > Sent: Fri, March 21, 2003 2:37 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Keith Hudson > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [Futurework] Perle's body language, etc > > > Congratulations guys you just discovered Edward T. Hall. Don't mind me > I'm pissed off today. I never saw a genuine massacre as seen by my > relatives. But it is strange that proximics has been in > existance for at > least thirty years and Hall was preaching this to the State > Department forty > years ago and it is still "cutting edge." Of course people in > the theater > have been doing it for several thousand years. Read Hall's > Dance of Life. > > REH > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Lawrence DeBivort" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Keith Hudson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 1:25 PM > Subject: RE: [Futurework] Perle's body language, etc > > > > Greetings, Keith, > > > > I've used slo-mo video before and with good equipment it is possible to > see > > a lot of 'microbehaviors' that go otherwise unperceived. Oddly, also, I > > tried speeding up the tapes and could then too see patterns that I had > > missed at regular speeds. We had one striking application of this, > coaching > > a local, rising politician to discard of a habit that > apparently irritated > > viewers; his ratings went up substantially after the coaching, though > > nothing else had changed. Not conclusive or controlled enough to be > > determinative, but it was pretty suggestive that a microbehavioral habit > had > > a significant (and in this case negative) impact. > > > > Keep up the good observation. I hope some day we can meet up > and explore > > this further. > > > > Best regards, > > Lawry > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Keith Hudson > > > Sent: Fri, March 21, 2003 9:49 AM > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: RE: [Futurework] Perle's body language, etc > > > > > > > > > Hi Lawry, > > > > > > I'm sorry, I can't add anything more to what I observed -- except > perhaps > > > that not only were his verbal responses delayed but also the > smiles and > > > mock grimaces that he elected to make from time to time. > Otherwise, the > > > stillness of his face and hands was not in any way unusual for > politicians > > > and people in his position who are used to controlling themselves > > > carefully > > > when being interviewed. However, the delays in his responses > -- and the > > > constancy of those pauses, whatever the difficulty of the question -- > were > > > those of a master, in my opinion. As said before, I interpret this > > > behaviour as a consequence of long-time experience in > considering every > > > question carefully, even the apparently innocent ones. In short, I > thought > > > Perele's performance was that of a superbly trained diplomat, > or senior > > > mandarin, unlike that of, say, Rumsfeld whose body language > is extremely > > > labile and thus, quite readable. > > > > > > I can't help you with any other observations -- I was concentrating > mainly > > > on what Perle was saying. I can't remember precisely what > happened when > he > > > was obviously momentarily thrown by a couple of cleverly-phrased > questions > > > from the ex-ambassador and Dimbleby himself. It would be > > > fascinating to see > > > a slow-motion replay of his demeanour during those two brief > episodes. I > > > suspect his facial muscles went haywire for a few microseconds! > > > > > > Keith > > > > > > > > > At 07:23 21/03/03 -0500, you wrote: > > > >Hi, Keith, > > > > > > > >Sorry for the delay in getting back: things have been busy. > > > > > > > >Many thanks for the report on Perle's body language. Very > > > interesting. Most > > > >people don't notice things as precisely or acutely, so > > > appreciate the info > > > >and the effort you put into reporting them. > > > > > > > >Did you notice anything about eye movements, by any chance, and > > > if so, can > > > >you associated a pattern of eye movements with a pattern of > > > subject matter > > > >being discussed? I would be very interested in any other > > > observations that > > > >you can recall: muscle tone changes, skin color changes, head > > > tilts, depth > > > >and pace of breathing, tone, volume, timbre of the voice, > unusual word > > > >choice, etc. > > > > > > > >The two instances of what I would call incongruencies that you > > > report may or > > > >may not be significant; the incongruence can be genuine, but the > > > substantive > > > >significance of an incongruence must be is unclear until the > subject's > > > >patterns are better known. > > > > > > > >I don't think that any of this (or intelligence either, though I am > less > > > >knowledgeable about that) is genetic, or at least if it is in any > degree, > > > >the reliability of the association would be much too low and > > > low-resolution > > > >to be useful in understanding or reading an individual. The kinds of > > > >patterns that I am looking for seem to cut across cultures and > > > ethnicities, > > > >with vastly more variation among members of a group than between > groups. > > > >Over the years I have come to discount generalizations about > > > groups, and to > > > >pay attention to individuals to understand (those) individuals. > > > Of course, > > > >that increases the cognitive and research burden immensely. Did > > > you ever see > > > >the book, Body Language? It tried to suggest, for example, that some > > > >postures meant certain things about people, universally. Many > > > people bought > > > >into the notion both because it suggested ways of understanding > > > people and > > > >because it was easy. But, instead, it was misleading. > > > > > > > >We can now model the cognitive processes in individuals, but > it remains > a > > > >person-by-person undertaking, given the levels of precision we need. > > > > > > > >Again, many thanks, and I hope you might be able to add > more, along the > > > >lines I ask, above. > > > > > > > >Cheers, > > > >Lawry > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > ---------- > > > ------------ > > > > > > Keith Hudson, General Editor, Handlo Music, http://www.handlo.com > > > 6 Upper Camden Place, Bath BA1 5HX, England > > > Tel: +44 1225 312622; Fax: +44 1225 447727; mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Futurework mailing list > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > http://scribe.uwaterloo.ca/mailman/listinfo/futurework > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Futurework mailing list > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://scribe.uwaterloo.ca/mailman/listinfo/futurework > > _______________________________________________ > Futurework mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://scribe.uwaterloo.ca/mailman/listinfo/futurework >
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