> Cats won't do because you live with them.   You are God to the fish and
that
> means that you have to be responsible for them.   Its the human arrogance
> that projects what the cat or fish's consciousness is like.    I don't
think
> your guy was ever a cat so like American Opera singers correcting Italians
> on their Verdi, he is in dubious territory.
>
> Ray Evans Harrell

Very likely, Ray.  He joined his cats in whatever Heaven they are in some
twenty years ago.  I really loved the man.  He wasn't just whimsical, he was
whimsy.  So unlike most economists.

Ed Weick

>
> > Ray, I'll admit that one could learn a lot from fish, but I don't think
> I'm
> > willing to go as far as you suggest.  Cats perhaps.  One of my very
early
> > bosses, an economist, used to develop his concepts of human behaviour by
> > watching his cats.  He had three of them, and they were enormous.  He
> > maintained that people were just like pussy cats, ten percent conscious
> and
> > ninety percent unconscious, and it was the latter you had to worry
about.
> > One of his favourite teaching devices was to invite us very young and
> > impressionable economist to his house and have us stand around his
kitchen
> > sink.  He would pour catnip into the sink and we would watch the cats
roil
> > round and round.  Standing off to one side, he would point down at them
> > saying, with some excitement, "See!  See! Just like people!"  I guess he
> was
> > right, whatever he meant.
> >
> > Ed Weick
> >
> >
> > > I think you guys should all go into the fish business.   Build an
> > aquarium.
> > > A big one.  At least six feet long and a couple of feet deep and
thick.
> > > Minimum 125 gallons.   And get yourselves some African Cichlids.
> > > Beautiful, durable little fish.  And they breed like fundamentalists.
> > > Then get yourself a big fish.   Something that's beautiful, like a
> Cobalt
> > > Blue.   Feed them all and see what happens.   Supply and Demand.   The
> > > invisible hand of the market and all of that stuff.  You can see it in
> > > action.   Try out your theories.   See what happens to the fact that
> > > everyone eats and everyone gets sick and as big as the tank is, it
still
> > has
> > > limited resources.    Nature is tough and fish weren't meant to be
even
> in
> > > big aquariums.   If you are going to keep them there then you are
going
> to
> > > have to modify certain ideas about yours and their freedom or they
won't
> > > survive.   I used to have a house full of aquariums and animals.   I
> went
> > > with the natural model.  Now I live in a two room apartment and except
> for
> > > the space, my life is much more productive and I can talk to my
friends
> on
> > > the internet.   You might consider that the upkeep of your lives has
to
> do
> > > with the reason that you don't understand some of the more complex
works
> > of
> > > the modern artists.   It just takes too much energy.   In order to
have
> > > civilization you must cooperate and that doesn't work with capitalism
or
> > > popular economics.    There has to be another model.   But are we
> > > cognitively dissonant or can we break free and imagine another way?
> > What
> > > the hell?   What else do you have to do with your life that isn't
> > ordinary,
> > > insignificant and totally temporary?    Milton Friedman and his fried
> > fish.
> > > That's all he can taste in his 90s but he still controls yours.
> > >
> > > Ray Evans Harrell
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Original Message -----
> > > From: "Ed Weick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: "Karen Watters Cole" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Harry Pollard"
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2003 12:23 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [Futurework] Local living economies
> > >
> > >
> > > > Harry, I don't think the UN stands a chance of doing anything that
> > various
> > > > powers might view as infringing on their sovereign rights.
> > > >
> > > > Ed
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Ed,
> > > > >
> > > > > Such a program would be ideal for the UN if it was really a Global
> > > > > organization.
> > > > >
> > > > > But, unfortunately, it hasn't much more than Pomp and
Circumstance.
> > > > >
> > > > > Harry
> > > > > -----------------------------------------------------
> > > > >
> > > > > Ed wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > > The issue is who owns the seas. I think they belong to the
> people
> > of
> > > > the
> > > > > > > earth, who should manage the catch to make the fishing grounds
> > > > > > > self-sustaining. Then there will be no "Tragedy".
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Harry, the problem is that, except for off-shore limits, the
people
> > of
> > > > the
> > > > > >earth do own the seas.  But the interests of the people are so
> > diverse
> > > > that
> > > > > >there is very little possibility of establishing an effective
> > > management
> > > > > >regime.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Ed
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ****************************************************
> > > > > Harry Pollard
> > > > > Henry George School of Social Science of Los Angeles
> > > > > Box 655   Tujunga   CA   91042
> > > > > Tel: (818) 352-4141  --  Fax: (818) 353-2242
> > > > > http://home.attbi.com/~haledward
> > > > > ****************************************************
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
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