> The issue is who owns the seas. I think they belong to the people of the
> earth, who should manage the catch to make the fishing grounds
> self-sustaining. Then there will be no "Tragedy".

Harry, the problem is that, except for off-shore limits, the people of the
earth do own the seas.  But the interests of the people are so diverse that
there is very little possibility of establishing an effective management
regime.

Ed


> Ed,
>
> Further to the South in the US, the permits are in the hands of people who
> don't fish themselves, but rent out the permit to the actual fishermen.
>
> I wonder if the same thing has happened in Canada.
>
> The issue is who owns the seas. I think they belong to the people of the
> earth, who should manage the catch to make the fishing grounds
> self-sustaining. Then there will be no "Tragedy".
>
> Or, we can do nothing - always the easiest choice.
>
> Harry
> ----------------------------------------------------------
>
> Ed wrote:
>
> >For commercial fishing, permits are required, probably from Fisheries and
> >Oceans Canada.   The problem is that the fishery, supposedly a renewable
> >resource, has been depleted.  The problem is that as long as there
appeared
> >to be fish, it was politically very unpopular to try to stop fishing -
> >"don't tell me there ain't no fish.  I been ketching them!"  Another
tragedy
> >of the commons.
> >
> >Ed
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Harry Pollard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: "Ed Weick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Karen Watters Cole"
> ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 5:17 PM
> >Subject: Re: [Futurework] Local living economies
> >
> >
> > > Ed,
> > >
> > > Do the fishermen just sail out and catch fish, or is a permit of some
kind
> > > required?
> > >
> > > If the second, who owns the permits?
> > >
> > > Harry
> > > ----------------------------------------------
> > >
> > > Ed wrote:
> > > >
> > > >Perhaps it depends on the kind of small community we are talking
> > > >about.  My son is currently teaching in a community on the Labrador
> > > >coast.  The fishery has been devastated, and as a survival strategy
> > > >community leaders are foraging in the bureaucracy for government
> > > >support.  To survive at all, the community must export its kids, and
many
> > > >of the kids know it and are preparing for it by being good students.
In
> > > >contrast, an in-law lives on one of the Gulf Islands on the west
> > > >coast.  He and many of his neighbours moved to their rural
communities by
> > > >choice, bringing their money with them.  They have barter fairs and
enjoy
> > > >trading among themselves.
> > > >
> > > >In the communities of rural western Canada where I did some of my
growing
> > > >up it was always understood that one kid would get the farm and the
rest
> > > >would have to move out to the city to become professionals and
> > > >entrepreneurs, or perhaps bums.
> > > >
> > > >Ed Weick
>
>
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> Harry Pollard
> Henry George School of Social Science of Los Angeles
> Box 655   Tujunga   CA   91042
> Tel: (818) 352-4141  --  Fax: (818) 353-2242
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