Hi,

Just to clarify what "Layout" means? - I'm being told elsewhere that 
Zend_Layout is being accepted but I assume there's no proposal acceptance yet. 
I mean we have three varying methods of doing layouts - Zend_View Enhanced, 
Zend_Layout, and Matthew's Two-Step View - which differ primarily in how and 
where in the V and C they are executed. It got lost a while back in all the 
noise generated by the debate between me and Ralph which ended rather abruptly 
on the list but I'd like to see some consideration towards implementing both. 
The reasoning is simple enough - both are non-conflicting methods and each 
facilitates a preferred MVC practice in the community. Both current proposals 
are also not equal in scope and goals - another point seemingly lost is that 
Layouts is just one part of Zend_View Enhanced proposes.

Those of us preferring View Helpers for reading Models into a View would 
usually prefer a simpler decorator approach in Zend_View that leaves the 
Controller out of the equation - we don't really want to be forced to use a 
multiple Controllers in place of a simple 25 line decorator nor to return to 
the status quo where we have to subclass Zend_View, adopt a Two-Step View 
(another custom plugin) or just take a leap and replace it altogether.

Contrary to the growing belief, both Layout strategies shouldn't be considered 
as being in competition. I said very early on that implementing both could be a 
major plus to the community, and this should be given some weight going forward.

Kind regards,
Paddy
 
Pádraic Brady
http://blog.astrumfutura.com
http://www.patternsforphp.com


----- Original Message ----
From: Aaron D. Campbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Monday, July 9, 2007 11:05:35 PM
Subject: [fw-general] Release Schedule

I see the roadmap, with some of the future things to be implemented in 
ZF, but is there a release schedule?  Specifically I'd like to see when 
Zend_Layout is coming out.  I was told it would be included in 1.1, but 
when is that due out?







      
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