Hi Ralph, Fire away ;), I'll be back online this evening and can likely post a response. The wiki is up for now - how long that lasts is hard to say... Ralph vs Confluence!
Paddy Pádraic Brady http://blog.astrumfutura.com http://www.patternsforphp.com ----- Original Message ---- From: Ralph Schindler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Pádraic Brady <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: Mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Zend Framework General <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 4:50:06 PM Subject: Re: [fw-general] Release Schedule Hey Paddy, I have time for this now, perhaps it would be good to start getting out thoughts on there? Ill go first (if the wiki is up) ;) Pádraic Brady wrote: > Hi Mark, > > When I checked it last, Ralph had yet to post a response there. If he > does, and assuming the Wiki is up of course ;), I'll post another > response and set a second question. > > Paddy > > Pádraic Brady > http://blog.astrumfutura.com > http://www.patternsforphp.com > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 9:37:13 AM > Subject: Re: [fw-general] Release Schedule > > Is this still happening? > > http://framework.zend.com/wiki/display/ZFDEV/Zend_View+Enhancement+VS+Zend_Layout+Throwdown > > I've never been to a "Throwdown". Of course it's on the Wiki so right now I > can't check it. > > Regards, > Mark > > On Wednesday 11 July 2007 08:54, Pádraic Brady wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Just to clarify what "Layout" means? - I'm being told elsewhere that > > Zend_Layout is being accepted but I assume there's no proposal acceptance > > yet. I mean we have three varying methods of doing layouts - Zend_View > > Enhanced, Zend_Layout, and Matthew's Two-Step View - which differ > primarily > > in how and where in the V and C they are executed. It got lost a > while back > > in all the noise generated by the debate between me and Ralph which ended > > rather abruptly on the list but I'd like to see some consideration > towards > > implementing both. The reasoning is simple enough - both are > > non-conflicting methods and each facilitates a preferred MVC practice in > > the community. Both current proposals are also not equal in scope and > goals > > - another point seemingly lost is that Layouts is just one part of > > Zend_View Enhanced proposes. > > > > Those of us preferring View Helpers for reading Models into a View would > > usually prefer a simpler decorator approach in Zend_View that leaves the > > Controller out of the equation - we don't really want to be forced to > use a > > multiple Controllers in place of a simple 25 line decorator nor to return > > to the status quo where we have to subclass Zend_View, adopt a Two-Step > > View (another custom plugin) or just take a leap and replace it > altogether. > > > > Contrary to the growing belief, both Layout strategies shouldn't be > > considered as being in competition. I said very early on that > implementing > > both could be a major plus to the community, and this should be given > some > > weight going forward. > > > > Kind regards, > > Paddy > > > > Pádraic Brady > > http://blog.astrumfutura.com > > http://www.patternsforphp.com > > > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > > From: Aaron D. Campbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: [email protected] > > Sent: Monday, July 9, 2007 11:05:35 PM > > Subject: [fw-general] Release Schedule > > > > I see the roadmap, with some of the future things to be implemented in > > ZF, but is there a release schedule? Specifically I'd like to see when > > Zend_Layout is coming out. I was told it would be included in 1.1, but > > when is that due out? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > >_________ Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative > > vehicles. Visit the Yahoo! Auto Green Center. > > http://autos.yahoo.com/green_center/ > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Get the Yahoo! toolbar and be alerted to new email > <http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=48225/*http://new.toolbar.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/index.php>wherever > > you're surfing. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Sick sense of humor? Visit Yahoo! TV's Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, when. http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/222
