Hi Mark, When I checked it last, Ralph had yet to post a response there. If he does, and assuming the Wiki is up of course ;), I'll post another response and set a second question.
Paddy Pádraic Brady http://blog.astrumfutura.com http://www.patternsforphp.com ----- Original Message ---- From: Mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 9:37:13 AM Subject: Re: [fw-general] Release Schedule Is this still happening? http://framework.zend.com/wiki/display/ZFDEV/Zend_View+Enhancement+VS+Zend_Layout+Throwdown I've never been to a "Throwdown". Of course it's on the Wiki so right now I can't check it. Regards, Mark On Wednesday 11 July 2007 08:54, Pádraic Brady wrote: > Hi, > > Just to clarify what "Layout" means? - I'm being told elsewhere that > Zend_Layout is being accepted but I assume there's no proposal acceptance > yet. I mean we have three varying methods of doing layouts - Zend_View > Enhanced, Zend_Layout, and Matthew's Two-Step View - which differ primarily > in how and where in the V and C they are executed. It got lost a while back > in all the noise generated by the debate between me and Ralph which ended > rather abruptly on the list but I'd like to see some consideration towards > implementing both. The reasoning is simple enough - both are > non-conflicting methods and each facilitates a preferred MVC practice in > the community. Both current proposals are also not equal in scope and goals > - another point seemingly lost is that Layouts is just one part of > Zend_View Enhanced proposes. > > Those of us preferring View Helpers for reading Models into a View would > usually prefer a simpler decorator approach in Zend_View that leaves the > Controller out of the equation - we don't really want to be forced to use a > multiple Controllers in place of a simple 25 line decorator nor to return > to the status quo where we have to subclass Zend_View, adopt a Two-Step > View (another custom plugin) or just take a leap and replace it altogether. > > Contrary to the growing belief, both Layout strategies shouldn't be > considered as being in competition. I said very early on that implementing > both could be a major plus to the community, and this should be given some > weight going forward. > > Kind regards, > Paddy > > Pádraic Brady > http://blog.astrumfutura.com > http://www.patternsforphp.com > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Aaron D. Campbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Monday, July 9, 2007 11:05:35 PM > Subject: [fw-general] Release Schedule > > I see the roadmap, with some of the future things to be implemented in > ZF, but is there a release schedule? Specifically I'd like to see when > Zend_Layout is coming out. I was told it would be included in 1.1, but > when is that due out? > > > > > > > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ >_________ Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative > vehicles. Visit the Yahoo! Auto Green Center. > http://autos.yahoo.com/green_center/ ____________________________________________________________________________________ Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos & more. http://mobile.yahoo.com/go?refer=1GNXIC
