Hey Paddy, I have time for this now, perhaps it would be good to start
getting out thoughts on there? Ill go first (if the wiki is up) ;)
Pádraic Brady wrote:
Hi Mark,
When I checked it last, Ralph had yet to post a response there. If he
does, and assuming the Wiki is up of course ;), I'll post another
response and set a second question.
Paddy
Pádraic Brady
http://blog.astrumfutura.com
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----- Original Message ----
From: Mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 9:37:13 AM
Subject: Re: [fw-general] Release Schedule
Is this still happening?
http://framework.zend.com/wiki/display/ZFDEV/Zend_View+Enhancement+VS+Zend_Layout+Throwdown
I've never been to a "Throwdown". Of course it's on the Wiki so right now I
can't check it.
Regards,
Mark
On Wednesday 11 July 2007 08:54, Pádraic Brady wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Just to clarify what "Layout" means? - I'm being told elsewhere that
> Zend_Layout is being accepted but I assume there's no proposal acceptance
> yet. I mean we have three varying methods of doing layouts - Zend_View
> Enhanced, Zend_Layout, and Matthew's Two-Step View - which differ
primarily
> in how and where in the V and C they are executed. It got lost a
while back
> in all the noise generated by the debate between me and Ralph which ended
> rather abruptly on the list but I'd like to see some consideration
towards
> implementing both. The reasoning is simple enough - both are
> non-conflicting methods and each facilitates a preferred MVC practice in
> the community. Both current proposals are also not equal in scope and
goals
> - another point seemingly lost is that Layouts is just one part of
> Zend_View Enhanced proposes.
>
> Those of us preferring View Helpers for reading Models into a View would
> usually prefer a simpler decorator approach in Zend_View that leaves the
> Controller out of the equation - we don't really want to be forced to
use a
> multiple Controllers in place of a simple 25 line decorator nor to return
> to the status quo where we have to subclass Zend_View, adopt a Two-Step
> View (another custom plugin) or just take a leap and replace it
altogether.
>
> Contrary to the growing belief, both Layout strategies shouldn't be
> considered as being in competition. I said very early on that
implementing
> both could be a major plus to the community, and this should be given
some
> weight going forward.
>
> Kind regards,
> Paddy
>
> Pádraic Brady
> http://blog.astrumfutura.com
> http://www.patternsforphp.com
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Aaron D. Campbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Monday, July 9, 2007 11:05:35 PM
> Subject: [fw-general] Release Schedule
>
> I see the roadmap, with some of the future things to be implemented in
> ZF, but is there a release schedule? Specifically I'd like to see when
> Zend_Layout is coming out. I was told it would be included in 1.1, but
> when is that due out?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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