On Fri, December 28, 2007 2:08 pm, Federico Cargnelutti wrote: > But, who is using the web services components included in the ZF? I know > that in terms of image, to associate the ZF with web services is a good > thing, but, the discussions I'm having with Technical Managers and other > Developers are always about the components that ZF doesn't have. For > example, Zend_Ftp, Zend_Form, Zend_File_Uploader, Zend_File_Utility, > Zend_Debug, Zend_Build, Zend_Image, Zend_Tree, Zend_Nav and others that > honestly I can't remember now.
(shrugs) You can't have every useful module right at the beginning. There are a lot of useful modules right now, and plenty of useful things coming in 2008. > So basically, Technical Managers know they don't have 2 months to develop > the missing components, and they are asking me questions such as, how are > we going to upload and resize images? How are we going to create a > navigation system? How are we going to implement a web service for > authentication using OpenID? How does the framework cope with TDD? Doe it > have unit testing? A debugger? So far, they never asked me anything about > any of the Zend_Service_* components, except in one project that we needed > one for PayPal. Well, of course it does have unit testing and OpenID support. Test-driven development is a methodology, not a technology. Xdebug is useful for debugging. A navigation system--really? That's pretty basic. At some point a developer has to actually write some PHP, though, and can't rely on the framework to do everything--this is the case with uploading and resizing images. Uploading is very simple, and resizing images just requires the use of the Magick Wand or gd extensions. Anyway, services are only a small portion of the Zend Framework whole. -Matt
