-- ekerazha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote (on Monday, 03 November 2008, 02:43 AM -0800): > That's insignificant, he didn't test some frameworks on a personal computer > with Windows Vista and other frameworks on a supercomputer; his test was > perfectly fair. Absolute results of that benchmark are insignificant, you > should care about relative results.
You miss several important issues: it's not necessarily about testing on Windows, it's the entire methodology. If you want to have a good benchmark on windows, use a reasonable production environment: dedicated machine, using IIS + FastCGI. Apache on Windows is notoriously non-performant and unoptimized. Additionally, benching on a personal box, and not one tuned for production, will have skewed results due to having other applications and processes running. > As I've already said (I quote myself) > > ekerazha wrote: > > > > Are you (and other professed software architects) saying that there's a > > "Windows Vista-way" and a "Linux way" for PHP programming? PHP is a high > > level interpreted language, should I believe that you have 2 different > > software engineering strategies if you deploy a *PHP* application on a > > Windows system or on a Linux system? "PHP for Linux": nice. Please, don't > > let us laugh, that's just ridiculous. > > > Somebody wrote some code because he thought it was good code. Now somebody > else shows that your framework is slower than another framework on Windows > Vista: you have to blame your code, not Windows Vista, because the other > framework was on Windows Vista too... and yes, it was faster and "probably" > it will be faster on every other operating system. Remember, "relative > results". > > We could discuss about the PHP version (maybe you have optimized your code > for the last PHP version), but this discussion about > to-Windows-or-not-to-Windows (from you and other people) is simply > valueless. > > But if you prefer your theory, you could add a "PHP for Linux" label to your > apps ;-) > > > Isaak Malik-3 wrote: > > > > You're viewing it from the viewpoint, that sentence was not about the > > scripting language itself not was it about the frameworks specifically. It > > was about the fact that web applications perform much worser on an > > everyday-computer vs a production server. > > > > Since these benchmarks were performed on an everyday-computer they hold > > very > > little truth, not only because of the possibility of other running > > software > > inflicting the results (see my benchmarks) but also because these numbers > > would be much different from the benchmarks performed on a Linux > > production > > server. > > > > And if one would perform benchmarks on a Windows server then you should at > > least use the most common software combination of a real-time production > > server which would be Windows + IIS and not Windows + Apache. > > > > On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 9:46 PM, ekerazha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> > >> > >> Martin Martinov-2 wrote: > >> > > >> > The bare fact that they say the tests were run on a windows vista pc > >> > says much by itself :-) > >> > > >> > >> Are you (and other professed software architects) saying that there's a > >> "Windows Vista-way" and a "Linux way" for PHP programming? PHP is a high > >> level interpreted language, should I believe that you have 2 different > >> software engineering strategies if you deploy a *PHP* application on a > >> Windows system or on a Linux system? "PHP for Linux": nice. Please, don't > >> let us laugh, that's just ridiculous. > >> -- > >> View this message in context: > >> http://www.nabble.com/Framework-speed-shotout----question-tp19914787p20293638.html > >> Sent from the Zend Framework mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > >> > >> > > > > > > -- > > Isaak Malik > > Web Developer > > > > > > -- > View this message in context: > http://www.nabble.com/Framework-speed-shotout----question-tp19914787p20300498.html > Sent from the Zend Framework mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > -- Matthew Weier O'Phinney Software Architect | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Zend Framework | http://framework.zend.com/
