Yeah, that's exactly what I'm gonna do to this aooh guy's posts. I wish Zend can do that for everyone though, just as he claimed!
-- Mon On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 6:29 AM, Alexander Steshenko <[email protected]>wrote: > What stuff?Use delete button along with the filters in your gmail. > > > On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 2:22 AM, Mon Zafra <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Sorry, I just have to. Someone can delete stuff sent in a mailing list? >> That's hilarious! >> Better ask the Zend people to delete this thread too. This is just >> embarassing. At least you weren't using your name though, good call on that >> one. >> >> -- Mon >> >> >> >> On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 11:00 PM, Matthew Ratzloff < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Guys, please let this subject die by not replying to the thread. >>> -Matt >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 1:59 AM, aoohralex <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> My critical subject about Zend Framework was deleted. Somebody from Zend >>>> deleted my post. My criticism PHP authors and Zend Framework in compare >>>> to >>>> other frameworks wasn't comfortable for Zend company. You can don't >>>> agree >>>> with me but delete my subject ? So again: >>>> >>>> I have started learn ZF because I wanted to learn something new. >>>> If we have range 0 – 10. My knowledge ZF is 1 – I can make basic things >>>> in >>>> ZF – connect to database, queries insert/update/delete, basic zend >>>> forms, >>>> authorization, use jquery and layout in zend, controllers, views. >>>> My knowledge Symfony Framework is 5. My knowledge ASP.NET MVC (not >>>> ASP.NET) >>>> is 4. >>>> >>>> Now I can say that ZF is very bad framework or maybe rather it isn't a >>>> framework. Everybody knows that authors of PHP are always late and >>>> behind – >>>> for example PHP is really OO from version v5 (eariel it was only some OO >>>> elements in PHP). The same is in Zend Framework – this framework is >>>> behind >>>> others frameworks. >>>> >>>> First - Zend_Db is nothing compared to Doctrine ORM. Using Zend_Db I >>>> have to >>>> create myself models: >>>> >>>> http://framework.zend.com/docs/quickstart/create-a-model-and-database-table >>>> !!!!! In Symfony Framework with Doctrine ORM and in ASP.NET MVC with >>>> Linq to >>>> SQL I don't need because it is wasting of time – there it is automatic – >>>> in >>>> Symfony using console and in ASP.NET MVC using Visual Studio. Of course >>>> Doctrine and Linq to SQL have got more better things. >>>> >>>> In Zend Framework almost nothing you can do using console (of course >>>> almost >>>> nothing compared to Symfony) – in Symfony using console you can generate >>>> much more (I don't use in Symfony console to generate modules, >>>> controllers >>>> or forms but for begginners it is very comfortable). In ASP.NET MVC I >>>> don't >>>> need use console but Visual Studio but ASP.NET MVC is very young so >>>> generated controllers/views etc. don't have so good code as in Symfony. >>>> In >>>> ASP>NET MVC and Symfony Framework I don't need to enable layout like in >>>> Zend >>>> Framework. The most horrible thing in Zend it was for me Zend_Acl – >>>> using >>>> that I can't still make that only logged users can have access to action >>>> 'add' controller 'books' – in Symfony I can make that using 2 lines of >>>> code >>>> in module 'books': >>>> >>>> add: >>>> is_secure: on >>>> >>>> and in ASP.NET one line of code in controller: >>>> >>>> [Authorize] >>>> >>>> What is more in Symfony and ASP.NET MVC we have tables in database and >>>> everything else related with users, authorization etc. created in these >>>> frameworks – in Zend I must myself do that. >>>> There is of course more good things in these frameworks – better than in >>>> Zend. >>>> >>>> Documentation – hahah – in Zend documentation is chaotic, is HORRIBLE !! >>>> Have you ever seen documentation of Symfony or ASP.NET MVC ? I have >>>> never >>>> seen worse documentation than in Zend. >>>> >>>> For me Zend isn't a framework but rather components that we can use in >>>> other >>>> frameworks – for example Zend Lucene in Symfony: >>>> http://www.symfony-project.org/jobeet/1_2/Doctrine/en/17 >>>> >>>> As I thought – authors of PHP are always late and they are always behind >>>> so >>>> Zend is always late and behind. For now Symfony and ASP.NET MVC are >>>> from XXI >>>> aga, Zend is from XX age. >>>> >>>> This was my compare these frameworks. Sry for my English – it isn't my >>>> national language. >>>> >>>> PS. bold text = I am angry because of delete my subject by Zend company. >>>> -- >>>> View this message in context: >>>> http://www.nabble.com/Is-there-anybody-from-Zend-team---tp25455352p25531048.html >>>> Sent from the Zend Framework mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >>>> >>>> >>> >> > > > -- > Alexander Steshenko | http://lcf.name > >
