I have followed this discussion, and I must agree with you :-)
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On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 18:52, Sean Utt <[email protected]> wrote:

>  Interesting how people jump to conclusions.
>
> These kinds of threads all run the same course. They start with, "I really
> love XYZ." Then it's, "But it doesn't make my coffee in the morning for me."
> And eventually it degrades into, "I'm a programmer but I really hate writing
> code, why doesn't this tool do my job for me?"
>
> Zend Framework is not the only choice available. If you like the others
> more, use one of them.
>
> If you need code that does something different, write it -- you are a
> programmer, are you not? If you need to generate your database code
> automatically, write code that does that for you. That is what programmers
> do: they write code. If you cannot write the code yourself because you are
> not a programmer, pay someone who is a programmer to solve your problem for
> you. If you cannot write the code and you cannot pay to have it written,
> learn to use flattery, because you are going to need it.
>
> -- Sean
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Carlton Gibson <[email protected]>
> *To:* Zend Framework General <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 16, 2009 8:12 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [fw-general] Is there anybody from Zend team ?
>
>
>  On 16 Sep 2009, at 16:00, aoohralex wrote:
>
> So you think this is a mistake that these things are in Symfony Framework,
> ASP.NET Framework and many others frameworks ? :)
>
>
> No. What they do is up to them. My comments are directly entirely at Zend
> Framework and should not be taken to imply anything about any other
> framework.
>
> What I don't want is for Zend Framework to start dictating which components
> I use and how and when. Again, one of the chief selling points of Zend
> Framework is that isn't "opinionated" in this sense.
>
> I accept that Zend Framework may be slower off the mark for some tasks than
> other frameworks because it is not opinionated. (Although how much slower
> having done it once I really question.) The trade off is massive
> flexibility. I can use the same components all over the place (and do).
>
> All I can suggest is that you use it for a good period and then make your
> own mind up.
>
>  Regards,
> Carlton
>
>

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