What stuff?Use delete button along with the filters in your gmail. On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 2:22 AM, Mon Zafra <[email protected]> wrote:
> Sorry, I just have to. Someone can delete stuff sent in a mailing list? > That's hilarious! > Better ask the Zend people to delete this thread too. This is just > embarassing. At least you weren't using your name though, good call on that > one. > > -- Mon > > > > On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 11:00 PM, Matthew Ratzloff < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Guys, please let this subject die by not replying to the thread. >> -Matt >> >> >> On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 1:59 AM, aoohralex <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> >>> My critical subject about Zend Framework was deleted. Somebody from Zend >>> deleted my post. My criticism PHP authors and Zend Framework in compare >>> to >>> other frameworks wasn't comfortable for Zend company. You can don't agree >>> with me but delete my subject ? So again: >>> >>> I have started learn ZF because I wanted to learn something new. >>> If we have range 0 – 10. My knowledge ZF is 1 – I can make basic things >>> in >>> ZF – connect to database, queries insert/update/delete, basic zend forms, >>> authorization, use jquery and layout in zend, controllers, views. >>> My knowledge Symfony Framework is 5. My knowledge ASP.NET MVC (not >>> ASP.NET) >>> is 4. >>> >>> Now I can say that ZF is very bad framework or maybe rather it isn't a >>> framework. Everybody knows that authors of PHP are always late and behind >>> – >>> for example PHP is really OO from version v5 (eariel it was only some OO >>> elements in PHP). The same is in Zend Framework – this framework is >>> behind >>> others frameworks. >>> >>> First - Zend_Db is nothing compared to Doctrine ORM. Using Zend_Db I have >>> to >>> create myself models: >>> >>> http://framework.zend.com/docs/quickstart/create-a-model-and-database-table >>> !!!!! In Symfony Framework with Doctrine ORM and in ASP.NET MVC with >>> Linq to >>> SQL I don't need because it is wasting of time – there it is automatic – >>> in >>> Symfony using console and in ASP.NET MVC using Visual Studio. Of course >>> Doctrine and Linq to SQL have got more better things. >>> >>> In Zend Framework almost nothing you can do using console (of course >>> almost >>> nothing compared to Symfony) – in Symfony using console you can generate >>> much more (I don't use in Symfony console to generate modules, >>> controllers >>> or forms but for begginners it is very comfortable). In ASP.NET MVC I >>> don't >>> need use console but Visual Studio but ASP.NET MVC is very young so >>> generated controllers/views etc. don't have so good code as in Symfony. >>> In >>> ASP>NET MVC and Symfony Framework I don't need to enable layout like in >>> Zend >>> Framework. The most horrible thing in Zend it was for me Zend_Acl – using >>> that I can't still make that only logged users can have access to action >>> 'add' controller 'books' – in Symfony I can make that using 2 lines of >>> code >>> in module 'books': >>> >>> add: >>> is_secure: on >>> >>> and in ASP.NET one line of code in controller: >>> >>> [Authorize] >>> >>> What is more in Symfony and ASP.NET MVC we have tables in database and >>> everything else related with users, authorization etc. created in these >>> frameworks – in Zend I must myself do that. >>> There is of course more good things in these frameworks – better than in >>> Zend. >>> >>> Documentation – hahah – in Zend documentation is chaotic, is HORRIBLE !! >>> Have you ever seen documentation of Symfony or ASP.NET MVC ? I have >>> never >>> seen worse documentation than in Zend. >>> >>> For me Zend isn't a framework but rather components that we can use in >>> other >>> frameworks – for example Zend Lucene in Symfony: >>> http://www.symfony-project.org/jobeet/1_2/Doctrine/en/17 >>> >>> As I thought – authors of PHP are always late and they are always behind >>> so >>> Zend is always late and behind. For now Symfony and ASP.NET MVC are from >>> XXI >>> aga, Zend is from XX age. >>> >>> This was my compare these frameworks. Sry for my English – it isn't my >>> national language. >>> >>> PS. bold text = I am angry because of delete my subject by Zend company. >>> -- >>> View this message in context: >>> http://www.nabble.com/Is-there-anybody-from-Zend-team---tp25455352p25531048.html >>> Sent from the Zend Framework mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >>> >>> >> > -- Alexander Steshenko | http://lcf.name
