Rob Ludwick wrote:
Give me a more politically correct term then. I just chose 'fringe' for lack of more descriptive terms.

I like using the term "Python" for describing Python.  ;)

I actually like calling it 'not listed as a requirement by many employers'. That's really the main part of my argument, too. In my last search for software engineering positions I saw the following languages repeated over and over (roughly in order from most requested to least): Java, C/C++ (listed together), PHP & javascript (usually listed together), perl, ADA

Not a single mention of python, tcl, or ruby, though those seem fairly common in the freelance open source community. Sadly, since the industry seems to want people proficient in java more than anything, I'm probably going to have to learn it eventually, even though I find the thought of OOP everywhere extremely repulsive.


So here's what I'm proposing.  Since you dislike python's use of
whitespace, I will write a python braceificator and we can compare and
contrast.

And here it is.  I wouldn't use the term "Beautiful" to describe this
piece of code.  I prefer "Pragmatic".  If it happens to look beautiful,
that's merely a side effect.

def indentlevel(line):
    count = 0
    while len(line) and line[0] == " ":
        line=line[1:]
        count +=1

    return count

def bracify(file):
    infd = open(file,"r")
    outfd = open(file+".by","w")

    bracelevel = [0]

    originalline = " "
    while originalline != '':
originalline=infd.readline()
        line = originalline.rstrip()
        level = indentlevel(line)

        if line.lstrip() == "":
            outfd.write(line + "\n")
            continue

        if level > bracelevel[-1]:
            outfd.write(level * " " + "{\n")
            bracelevel.append(level)

        while bracelevel[-1] > level:
            outfd.write(bracelevel.pop() * " " + "}\n")

        if line[-1] == ":":
            outfd.write(line + "\n")
            continue

        while line[-1] == '\\':
            outfd.write(line)
            line = infd.readline().rstrip()

        outfd.write(line + ';\n')

    while len(bracelevel):
        outfd.write(bracelevel.pop() * " " + "}\n")



And here is what the braceified version of the same code looks like:

def indentlevel(line):
    {
    count = 0;
    while len(line) and line[0] == " ":
        {
        line=line[1:];
        count +=1;

        }
    return count;

    }
def bracified(file):
    {
    infd = open(file,"r");
    outfd = open(file+".by","w");

    bracelevel = [0];

    originalline = " ";
    while originalline != '':

        {
....

Anyway you get the point.

I'd be more impressed if you hacked out something that turned it into complete C code (minus low-level variable stuff, of course) ;)

You used OOP crap in there too, by the way...yuck. Really should only need to use that for GUI-level stuff.


At this point it seems pretty trivial to write a debraceificator to
convert it back to normal python syntax.  Replace the semicolons with
linefeeds and count braces for indentation.  And then you would have
something that with a little polish would replace whitespace with
braces.
Oh and the code ports easily to jave:

$jythonc -j braceificator.jar braceificator.py

Yuck.


--R


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