Well i reinstalled the 10.4.11 ppc update from apple and it now sleeps
easily, must  have been some software problem. thanks for all the
help!

On Jan 19, 9:38 pm, Alex Santos <[email protected]> wrote:
> I apologize but I obviously misread your issue. When you open the lid the 
> machine kernel panics.
>
> Could you try to startup the mac holding the shift key (when booting to OSX) 
> and try to shutdown.
> View this link to understand what safe boot 
> is,http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1564
>
> Basically if the machine works as expected after starting up in safeboot we 
> likely have an OS issue.
>
> If you have any external hardware connected to your mac be sure to detach 
> those as some hardware can cause conflicts with the OS.
>
> When did you first notice the issue? Can you think of any action you took, 
> software install or otherwise that you might be able to correlate with the 
> issue?
>
> You say it shutdown when opening the lid, is the machine running off the 
> power adapter? If it kernel panics on startup, does the kernel panic happen 
> before you login? If it does, then it is a system wide issue that would 
> necessitate a re-install of OSX or there are kernel extensions in the way.
>
> It's a real pity that you do not have the OS install discs as a re-install of 
> OSX could help understand if the issue is hardware or software, then again, 
> if the machine behaves perfectly fine and the issue is not reproducible 
> within OS9 then we can rule out the mac hardware as the source of the issue.
>
> Again, I hope this helps provide further insight.
>
> These two apple support articles should provide further insight, recommended 
> reading in your case…
>
> About "You need to restart your computer" (kernel panic) 
> messageshttp://support.apple.com/kb/HT1392
>
> Mac OS X: How to log a kernel panichttp://support.apple.com/kb/HT2546
>
> Regards
> Alex
>
> On 19 Jan 2010, at 18:20, je2 wrote:
>
> > Well i have reset the pram but it still kernel panics occasionally and
> > doesn't sleep in tiger. Would there be any other way to install the
> > appropriate files for instance in tiger for this machine? I'm not keen
> > on buying the os to install again because the only place i would be
> > able to buy it would be off ebay and then it is $50 and up.
> > Regards ::je2::
>
> > On Jan 19, 8:50 am, Alex Santos <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> Greetings
>
> >> If you are not sure about the OS installed on your system and if the OS 
> >> installed on your computer is in question then you could see more issues 
> >> that may appear as a hardware problem when it may not be. I suggest you 
> >> refer to MacTracker, a free download for the iPod Touch, iPhone and Mac, 
> >> install it, look up your machine and it will tell which OS originally came 
> >> with your machine and buy yourself a copy, start up from that OS CD, zero 
> >> out the drive and then perform an erase and install.
>
> >> The other option would be to consider that the USB stick is not compatible 
> >> or has a hardware problem. Consider erasing the USB stick.
>
> >> Your original email mentioned a sleep issue. You might consider resetting 
> >> the PMU.
>
> >> Google search the following,
> >> PMU reset site:support.apple.com
> >> open the article google brings back and reset the PMU.
> >> Kernel panics typically relate to incomatbile hardware connected to your 
> >> mac.
>
> >> When ever you buy a second hand computer, you should always consider 
> >> erasing the HD as your first step. Who knows what crud is on the HD 
> >> causing problems.
>
> >> So I would start by erasing the HD and installing OS X/9 from scratch so 
> >> you have a guaranteed clean install but make sure you have either the 
> >> discs that came bundled with your unit or made for your model or use a 
> >> retail copy of the OS that meets the system requirements for your machine.
>
> >> You can find more about your machine athttp://www.apple.com/support/specs/
>
> >> So, don't think it is a hardware problem, it may be but it is more likely 
> >> to be the install of the OS that is causing issues because it appears to 
> >> work well with OS9.
>
> >> Hope this helps. If anything is not clear please let me know and I will 
> >> provide more details.
>
> >> Alex
>
> >> On 18 Jan 2010, at 17:57, je2 wrote:
>
> >>> Copyed and pasted for the system.log
> >>> Honestly i dont know if the os is a system specific model because i
> >>> bought the ibook off ebay :/
> >>> regards
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