I've got a Pismo and a few iBooks and I seem to remember that when this happenedto me I found information suggesting that you hold the power button down for more than 5 seconds, after the first hardware chime and possibly a second hardware chime,until you hear a long, low, melancholy "beep". Then you either wait for it to come on, or re-start it normally (i forgot). Sometimes I have had to do this three times in a row;it resets the PMU (?) or something. I don't think it can hurt anything. Do you have fire-wire? Connect it to another Mac for target disk mode and use the Disk Utility. I used to know exactly what this was called and when to do it, but I've had so many second Macs that break down that my brain has turned to mush. Anyway, try it if you haven't already.
Now, can someone answer a question which I wrote about 3 months ago, and heard nothing back... I picked up a Powerbook 1400 (pre-Pismo) and had some questions. Is it considered a G-book, or should I be on another forum? thanks, steve --- On Mon, 1/14/13, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: From: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: Digest for [email protected] - 8 Messages in 2 Topics To: "Digest Recipients" <[email protected]> Date: Monday, January 14, 2013, 8:19 AM Today's Topic Summary Group: http://groups.google.com/group/g-books/topics Digest for [email protected] - 2 Messages in 1 Topic [4 Updates] Kanga Problems [4 Updates] Digest for [email protected] - 2 Messages in 1 Topic shawn tomlinson <[email protected]> Jan 13 11:59AM -0500 Yes, I did zap the PRAM more times than I can remember. Do you think replacing the PRAM battery might work? Thanks for your help. Dhoc -- The only way out is through. — shawn m. tomlinson Kris Tilford <[email protected]> Jan 13 07:19PM -0600 On Jan 13, 2013, at 10:59 AM, shawn tomlinson wrote: > Do you think replacing the PRAM battery might work? Is the PRAM battery working? You can tell if it correctly stores the Time & Date after a Shutdown where any other battery or power source has been removed for a while and automatic Time & Date network synchronization is disabled at Startup. If the PRAM battery is working, don't replace. If it's dead, replace. James Wages <[email protected]> Jan 14 11:10AM +0900 I just wanted to add a little note of caution for those of you considering replacing the PRAM battery in your old PowerBooks. As I mentioned before, I have two PowerBook Wallstreet II's. A year ago I purchased two PRAM battery replacements, at more than $20 each + shipping, from OWC. Although the batteries look brand-new, and I'm sure they are, they clearly are some very old stock at OWC because they don't hold charge any more than my previous "dying" Apple PRAM batteries did. James W. Tom Green <[email protected]> Jan 14 08:41AM -0500 Yup. I had the same experience. -Tom Kanga Problems Sasuke Uchiha <[email protected]> Jan 13 02:08AM I agree with the above. PRAM battery is usually the culprit. James Wages <[email protected]> Jan 13 06:43PM +0900 Shawn, I have two PowerBook Wallstreet II's. In my experience, I've never had boot problems pertaining to dead PRAM batteries. You need to make the time to take your machine partially apart and put it back together. That usually fixes things. More specifically, you need to remove the hard drive, and then the CPU card, and then the RAM from the CPU card. Disconnect then reconnect any connectors you see too, for good measure. If that doesn't work, remove the hard drive and then try booting off a floppy or a CD. It could be that your hard drive simply died in a way that's causing your machine to lock up. Best, James Wages Clark Martin <[email protected]> Jan 13 04:09PM -0800 On Jan 13, 2013, at 1:43 AM, James Wages wrote: > Shawn, I have two PowerBook Wallstreet II's. In my experience, I've never had > boot problems pertaining to dead PRAM batteries. You need to make the time > to take your machine partially apart and put it back together. That usually > fixes things. More specifically, you need to remove the hard drive, and then > the CPU card, and then the RAM from the CPU card. Disconnect then reconnect > any connectors you see too, for good measure. I'd say you were lucky then because I often had boot problems due to dead PRAM batteries in my Wallstreets. They weren't insurmountable but there are definite problems. Kris Tilford <[email protected]> Jan 13 07:29PM -0600 On Jan 13, 2013, at 6:09 PM, Clark Martin wrote: > I'd say you were lucky then because I often had boot problems due to > dead PRAM batteries in my Wallstreets. They weren't insurmountable > but there are definite problems. I agree. Dead PRAM batteries are a problem in all old-world G3 laptops. Loose CPU cards are a problem only on the Wallstreet/PDQ/Lombard/ Pismo; the Kanga has a soldered CPU. You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Group g-books. You can post via email. To unsubscribe from this group, send an empty message. For more options, visit this group. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Books, a group for those using G3 iBooks and PowerBooks (we run a separate list for G4 'Books). 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