on 12/7/02 01:55, Shawn King at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>> Well, I don't know about this, but the thing that bothers me is that I
>> don't have a clue how OS X works and where everything is. I hope this will
>> come in time.
> 
> Just like your knowledge of OS 9 and 8 and 7, et al, it will.

I don't think OS X will *ever* be as accessible as the previous Mac OSes
were -- to the general computing public that is. No longer is 90% of the OS
contained in a single file, and no longer can you modify every element of
the OS without having explicit knowledge of how to do so (a good thing
IMNSHO).

The Mac OS 1-9 was great from a user POV because we could move things around
at will, and customize at will, BUT, it was a horrible OS from a
programmer's POV. Both because you had to deal with so many different
possibilities (rather than handing those duties off to the OS), and because
the APIs were so unlike those used in other OSes (yes, we've seen some
awesome software on the Mac, but we've also missed out).

The OS was a hack-job that had evolved from System 1 right through to Mac OS
9.2.2. Granted the only code retained from the original System is probably
the Calculator (has it seen *any* code and/or GUI changes since 1983? (C)
1983, 1991 and 1994 and version is 7.5. But, the code that exists
unfortunately has to provide backwards compatibility with the vast majority
of the old calls and traps, and itself is incapable of doing such things as
multi-tasking (how often have I had to wait for an app to get done its
job...  waiting for an app to open comes to mind :( :( :( or protected
memory.

If you want to know how OS X works you'll have to learn how a UNIX works --
OS X *is* a 100% UNIX with all the trimmings. But, if all you need to do is
*use* it, then learn how your home directory works, and how OS X
applications differ from OS 9 applications (negligibly).

What happens in /bin, /etc, /sbin, etc. is effectively none of your business
(provided you want to keep your computer running & you don't understand OS
programming) -- those areas are strictly off-limits. Apple now has as much
of a black-box policy as Winblows for 95% of the users, BUT for the 5% who
are inclined to learn UNIX OS X is by far the most open, accessible and
customizable of all the consumer OSes.

I fall under the 95% category who simply use their computer (I'm slowly
learning UNIX commands but not for anything serious) and I restrict my
activities to my home directory. I love the fact that I never have to worry
about rogue applications installing "illicit" extensions (without my express
permission), rogue applications corrupting the OS itself, and rogue
applications crashing other properly behaving apps.

>> The other thing is in OSes 7-9 I sort of knew how to fix everything
>> that could happen and now I'm told you can't really copy your whole
>> hard drive in case of a hard disk crash.
> 
> But, how did you "knew how to fix everything" in OS 7-9? You learned it.
> Just like you will with OS X, if you so choose.

PS you can technically copy your whole HD, but the only important stuff is
found in your User directory. The OS itself can be reinstalled and you can
simply copy your User directory back.

My complaints for OS X:

I ranted and griped about OS X when it initially came out (because I thought
that their "final" release was still beta quality and the GUI (most notably
the Dock) was hideously designed).

Most of my complaints about OS X 10.0.0->10.0.4 were fixed with OS X 10.1
but the Dock still suffers from a few problems (that can be fixed, but Apple
should provide the fixes). I need to apply a patch to get the dock to snap
to the top of the screen since I like it on the side (I use it in a way
similar to the way you use the OS 9 Application Switcher).

The other problems that OS X suffers from are all those things Apple didn't
bring over from OS 9 & 3rd party programmers have demonstrated that the
functionality exists in OS X itself (with one exception) -- Apple simply
hasn't enabled it. The application switcher menu is perhaps the biggest
omission (the Dock is simply not a good switcher on its own... sometimes it
works, but if I want to see what apps are open it's HORRIBLE).

If I didn't have ASM and TinkerTool I don't think OS X would've become my
default OS (the stability & multitasking is great but the GUI experience is
what makes or breaks the Mac for me -- if I just wanted stability &
multitasking I would've jumped ship to Winblows NT or 2000 long ago -- even
Windows 95 has better multi-tasking and crash recovery (I won't necessarily
say stability) than OS 9.2.2 (released 6 years later)).

PS TinkerTool 2.2 has some great features. The most notable are: (1) you can
change the default screen snapshot format (from TIFF to JPEG, PNG or PICT),
(2) you can change the position *and* placement of the Dock, and (3) you can
make the icons of hidden apps transparent in the dock.

ASM 2.0.2 adds the Application Switcher Menu (desperately needed) to OS X
and also allows you to setup an application profile that hides or shows the
dock depending on the app (e.g. I hide the dock automatically now in M$
Excel and Photoshop).

TinkerTool only changes preferences for functions that OS X already has
built-in. There is no reason that Apple shouldn't provide an interface to
the options that TinkerTool does, especially when the Dock is still of
limited functionality in the default install.

The biggest unfixed complaint (aside from Replace All) I have about OS X is
that the F-keys (except for F12) are utterly useless. I have no use for all
the crap that Apple has assigned to F1-F6, and the only time I use F-keys
for anything but launching apps in Classic (before that addition to Mac OS I
*never* used F-keys) is in Windows to Alt-F4 or Ctrl-F4 (but most Winblows
apps also support ctrl-q and ctrl-w now).

Grumble. OS X is cool for its stability but Apple still has some useless
elements to the GUI that really need fixing and/or they need to allow users
the choice to EASILY replace them (e.g. the next-to-useless Dock).

Eric, the curmudgeon.

PS The Dock is potentially useful but it is so limited in that it is
designed for the lowest common denominator.


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